Unbelievable

I don't think Saturday can be used to prove or disprove Marveaux' ability to play wide, seeing as that's not where he seemed to play at all even though he came in to replace an injured Gouffran. Looked to me like he was operating in an already congested central area, rather than providing a wide option. Whether this was tactical or not I do not know, but he certainly didn't play as far forward and wide as the man he replaced.

Pinto's Barcelona contract extended with another year.

Don't like

Sturridge is injured for tonight ffs: lucky Suarez is my C He is defo out? KERNTS! for f***s sake. Got Sturridge as C and michu as VC. Now watch sturridge come on in the last ten minutes in the second match. Oh dear. Can see Michu scoring a hattrick now too before an injury time Sturridge sub..

He wasn't poor against Villa at all if you ask me. If that had been Williamson there is no way we would have held onto the lead in that second half when we were under the cosh.

Aye, never saw or heard any evidence of this tbh. It's a very easy thing to claim when things aren't going well. Was quite a few people in the Colo thread who suggested him wanting to leave was a result of a bust up with Pardew tbf when the news first broke.

I suppose we'd all like to think we're rational and can look at longer term objectives, but as football fans we're massively affected by week to week results and short term blips. Course. For example, really a sample of 5 or 6 seasons at least would be needed to judge a manager properly, but obviously that would never happen. Baby steps... a period of > one season would be a great start And would people really want some sheikh, a sugar daddy to guarantee success and render your support and the entire history of the club moot? I'd much rather a club that was successful under its own steam. I f***ing hate Man City / Chelsea / Anzhi and the others and I can't wait for the sugar daddies to get bored and leave them well and truly up the creek I personally believe that is a rather odd argument considering how Ashley has so far handled the legacy he acquired a few years ago.

The romantic in me says we're on the right track with the self sufficiency approach, but the realist in me knows we will never challenge for major honours, which I would love to see us do (again) in my lifetime. On that basis I wouldn't say no to the right prospective owner willing to subsidise such a project.

I've probably been a little bit overly harsh on Cisse after that Spurs game. In hindsight, and having seen a couple of replays, the header from the Colo cross wasn't exactly a sitter. Still believe he should have at least hit the target, and in the context of other big misses recently I was annoyed at that attempt, but it would have been a fantastic finish had he scored. After some reflection, I think I'm more annoyed by that run on the break with Sissoko, where he basically got in Moussa's way instead of using the space to their left to create space for both of them (dragging one or two defenders wide) and give Sissoko an option other than dribbling into the pack. Seemed to me like he was just running towards goal in a straight line unintelligently regardless of where Sissoko was obviously going. What's the point of staying within a few yards of the man dribbling with the ball when there's lots of space to the side? I genuinely hope he gets a few goals soon, as his confidence seems absolutely shot and it's affecting his decision making and ability to finish. He's the main striker now, and if we want to pull away from the relegation scrap and move up the table, a large responsibility now lies at his feet to create and score the goals that win us matches.

Why not? I would think it's exactly what's likely to happen. He's not been on the bench in the PL yet, and don't expect to see him before next season tbh. Might as well have let him finish the season in France if that was the plan.

Take all Newcastle players out till the end of the season pretty please..

Krul Simpson Taylor Yanga-Mbiwa Haidara Tiote Bigi Anita Obertan Marveaux Cisse Bench: Elliot, Perch, Santon, Sissoko, Cabaye, Jonas, Shola

I think we can all agree on that one.

As I said he is turning it around, that is something I have always maintained he would do as well. It's the excuses though, maybe it's because I have defended players in the past that makes them really stick out but from greedy Ba, being played out of position, no service, he's not that sort of player (when apparently Ba was too similar hence them not working), 4-4-2 doesn't suit him etc.. Maybe he is just struggling for form a little? Maybe he is missing chances he could have done better with? You must admit he is pretty untouchable on here at times? Spot on. We all hope he silences the critics sooner rather than later for the good of the club we all support. It's just he's not been in good form since the beginning of pre-season, and whilst others in the same situation get loads of stick on here, Cisse gets endless excuses made for him. The simple fact is he's not pulled his weight this season in terms of chance creation and conversion, and he needs to turn it around sharpish. "Others" have never shown any genuine kind of quality though. I'm honestly struggling to understand your point here, everyone will agree he is off form, were just saying he's clearly a far better striker than his stats will show this season and be will prove it. You seems to be suggesting that he's just s***. I'm not suggesting he's shit at all, I'm suggesting he can do far better than he currently is, and that's why I am frustrated/criticising. For me the fact he is capable of doing so much better makes his prolonged loss of form more frustrating, not less.

58 points so far with captain Suarez still to play WBA (h) and Swansea (h) and Michu still to play Liverpool (a). Could be a decent gameweek.

As I said he is turning it around, that is something I have always maintained he would do as well. It's the excuses though, maybe it's because I have defended players in the past that makes them really stick out but from greedy Ba, being played out of position, no service, he's not that sort of player (when apparently Ba was too similar hence them not working), 4-4-2 doesn't suit him etc.. Maybe he is just struggling for form a little? Maybe he is missing chances he could have done better with? You must admit he is pretty untouchable on here at times? Spot on. We all hope he silences the critics sooner rather than later for the good of the club we all support. It's just he's not been in good form since the beginning of pre-season, and whilst others in the same situation get loads of stick on here, Cisse gets endless excuses made for him. The simple fact is he's not pulled his weight this season in terms of chance creation and conversion, and he needs to turn it around sharpish.

Heitinga to be put on suicide watch..

BBC can't even be arsed to comment on the Boro game

Edgar and Ramage score

It's down to the ref not wanting to set a precedent for the rest of the match. Yeah that's fair enough. But on the other hand if it's a red card challenge, it should be a red card. Or is it that the referee thinks things will generally get out of control if there's a red card straight away? Probably also a sense that players might not be quite up to speed, and the ref being reluctant to 'spoil the game'. Not saying it's right, but it's understandable IMO. Cattermole in particular has precendent though. He virtually did the same thing v Tiote in the first minute last year.

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He's on 32k till 2018. Madness. Second time I've seen you post this. How would you possibly know?

Fuck off MOTD