Parky

What the fuck are you on about? Wulster I'm trying to keep this thread transfer talk free.....Can you do summat...? Deleting sempuki's post or starting another Zoggy to Fulham thread would be better. Thank you.

James this isn't a transfer thread...One the only few on this board. Can you delete sempukeface's corruption of this transfer free thread... Thanks in advance. Jesus.

WTF is this doing in this thread??!!

Nice one Kaka. All we need now is Kewell to Spurs. mackems.gif

ffs! Why in gods name didn't you just go to the Marca site in translatio mode???

€3m is what ManC offered last week. Nowhere does it say they want what you're saying.

Does that say Newcastle representatives are flying out today? Good player. It does say that indeed. Man City it goes onto say offered €3m last week which was turned down.

The Glazers haven't spent a penny of thier own money.

Rather take a chance on Barnes, or go find someone for the same price across Europe who can run with the ball through the centre, Barnes is canny for that, but probably not ready for NUFC. Or buy a proper DMC. I'm not having a go here, but you can't just name players like this and assume they'll fit in. Barnes or "someone for the same price across Europe who can run with the ball through the centre" (could you be any less specific btw ). Yeah, it's the club's job to find these players, but maybe the quality just isn't there at the right price, or maybe they're unsure on whether they can take the risk on a specific player etc. etc. You can't assume Smith will just fit in either. You take a chance with every player, i'm being vague as i'm not a scout and i'm not going to pretend to be one. I've seen Barnes a few times last season, and thought he was excellent. A player we'd do well to sign as i think he's a bright talent and future NT player. I'd be very happy selling Dyer & bringing in Barnes, of course he has to adapt to the EPL and a club this size, but i reckon in two seasons he'd be a 1st teamer we couldn't live without. I could be wrong as well. Smith would just be a meh player, who'll never have a position, and won't get any better. An unhappy Dyer, the money of an unexpected sale, perfect opportunity to take a chance since we've done without him for the last several seasons anyway, whether someone abroad or going for a young English talent to replace him. Don't you think we've done enough "taking a chance"? I'd rather sign someone solid where I know what I'm getting (you say shite, I say good, let's call the whole thing off ). Not some young kid who might be the next Jermaine Jenas. Or some foreign bloke who could be the next Hugo Viana. We have, and a lot have backfired, and thats where the manager takes it on. Smith is a safe option then, but not a very good one. I'd honestly hand on heart rather keep an unhappy Dyer than sign Smith. £6m could probably get you Appiah or someone of that quality surly? These are slight risks, but there are players out there on the verge or in good form and hold good quality for that price. Adapting to the Country, local area and style of football will take longer, but Sam himself stated that as one of his strongest points. He knows every religion, requirement, family member & lifestyle choices of his entire playing staff at Bolton, and he did everything in his power to settle players quickly and it worked. I'd have no problem on him taking a chance in that respect, as long as the quality is there, Appiah is a good example, i don't really know what else is out there for £6m, but surly we can spend it more wisely than on Alan Smith. Its not just the quality i've got a problem with though, its the type of player. If we were lacking in strikers, or didn't have Ameobi or Viduka, Smith is tempting as a second striker in support of an Owen or Martins, but we don't need him and people thinking he's a midfielder really need to think again, he's not and never will be. If he's a mid signing, which by all accounts he would be, then we can get a £6m mid to do a much better job than him, a natural mid who's job it is, not a converted striker who struggled in that previous position. He'd make a cracking RB. [Windup/] Better Left back (insert 100 year old joke here)

Rather take a chance on Barnes, or go find someone for the same price across Europe who can run with the ball through the centre, Barnes is canny for that, but probably not ready for NUFC. Or buy a proper DMC. I'm not having a go here, but you can't just name players like this and assume they'll fit in. Barnes or "someone for the same price across Europe who can run with the ball through the centre" (could you be any less specific btw ). Yeah, it's the club's job to find these players, but maybe the quality just isn't there at the right price, or maybe they're unsure on whether they can take the risk on a specific player etc. etc. You can't assume Smith will just fit in either. You take a chance with every player, i'm being vague as i'm not a scout and i'm not going to pretend to be one. I've seen Barnes a few times last season, and thought he was excellent. A player we'd do well to sign as i think he's a bright talent and future NT player. I'd be very happy selling Dyer & bringing in Barnes, of course he has to adapt to the EPL and a club this size, but i reckon in two seasons he'd be a 1st teamer we couldn't live without. I could be wrong as well. Smith would just be a meh player, who'll never have a position, and won't get any better. An unhappy Dyer, the money of an unexpected sale, perfect opportunity to take a chance since we've done without him for the last several seasons anyway, whether someone abroad or going for a young English talent to replace him. Don't you think we've done enough "taking a chance"? I'd rather sign someone solid where I know what I'm getting (you say shite, I say good, let's call the whole thing off ). Not some young kid who might be the next Jermaine Jenas. Or some foreign bloke who could be the next Hugo Viana. We have, and a lot have backfired, and thats where the manager takes it on. Smith is a safe option then, but not a very good one. I'd honestly hand on heart rather keep an unhappy Dyer than sign Smith. £6m could probably get you Appiah or someone of that quality surly? These are slight risks, but there are players out there on the verge or in good form and hold good quality for that price. Adapting to the Country, local area and style of football will take longer, but Sam himself stated that as one of his strongest points. He knows every religion, requirement, family member & lifestyle choices of his entire playing staff at Bolton, and he did everything in his power to settle players quickly and it worked. I'd have no problem on him taking a chance in that respect, as long as the quality is there, Appiah is a good example, i don't really know what else is out there for £6m, but surly we can spend it more wisely than on Alan Smith. Its not just the quality i've got a problem with though, its the type of player. If we were lacking in strikers, or didn't have Ameobi or Viduka, Smith is tempting as a second striker in support of an Owen or Martins, but we don't need him and people thinking he's a midfielder really need to think again, he's not and never will be. If he's a mid signing, which by all accounts he would be, then we can get a £6m mid to do a much better job than him, a natural mid who's job it is, not a converted striker who struggled in that previous position. He'd make a cracking RB. [Windup/]

Probably end up at Boro.

Actually given Oliver's strong links with Roeder and Shepherd I wouldn't be surprised if he was actively shit-stirring now. blueyes.gif Probably feels frozen out.

There are some very significant reasons why SKY would be bothered about Ashley. What, then? That would be another thread. But, Murdoch's failed proposal to buy ManU (was a clue) and his almost total obsession with PL broadcasting rights, along with his (well founded) fear of characters like Ashley, Al Fayed, Abramovitch and the new ManU owners who are rumoured to be looking at (hence their heightened interest in football) 'other means' of revenue streams aside from the TV deal. With streaming and broadband technology now at that stage. The money at stake in football and CL qualification and image ownership is at such a level now that there are a lot of cosy relationships that feel threatened.

There are some very significant reasons why SKY would be bothered about Ashley.

Listen the 'Daily Mail' ran month long campaigns against super-casinos being given less regulatory licensing and had it in for FS originally who openly was touting for this business. They were on some kind of moral crusade at the time. Murdoch's Sun went after Abrahamovich when he first took over at Chelsea running story after story about his finances and intentions, partly fed by ther resident Chelsea supporter columnist...There is a very cosy releationship currently with the London based media and the London clubs and they are regularly looking to have a go at the likes of Newcastle...And Newcastle with in their eyes public enemy NO.1 Ashley is atm a prime target. Some of these articles are so 'dreamed up' and removed from any kind of journalistic rigour it is laughable, but at th same time a kind of spanner in the works...

It's a bit early for me had a heavy night.

Is he in danger of being buggered or something?! Conrad Black doesn't, and never did, own the Mail. Used to own the Telegraph. Now he owns no newspapers at all. Quite right he used to own The Telegraph.

I was speaking to my contact at The Telegraph this morning and the recurring theme was along these lines: One has to remember the owners of a lot these newspapers are rabid evil barons like Conrad Black (The Mail) and Rupert Murdoch (The Times). These types are also closeley alligned to the London money market types who have developed a dislike for Ashley. They are voiceferous and influential element withing the London gentlemans club scene who are after our owner who has pissed them off in the recent past. In many ways he has beaten them at their own game using their own instruments and he has paid scant regard to the protoclols one abides by within these activities. He is seen as a bit of a renegade and this media backlash are their efforts to bring him to heel. This recent spate of these types of articles are TOTAL SPECULATION AND SHIT STIRRING. We must hold together.

Of course if Duff is fit and playing well, then a Zoggy back to his old form shouldn't be sitting on the bench - he has to play in the middle with Barton. Duff.........Zog.......Barton......Milner. Bit attacking I know.

He likes an interchange and a 'burst through the middle' in a way that Emre can rarely pull off.

At some point I hope we see him as a middle three with Barton and Geremi. Atm I'm edging toward free role winger allowed to come in if it gains an advantage.

Attacking mf then. :parky:

It is apparent already that he is multi-skilled and can play in a number of positions...iirc He has played left back in his early days and clearly is comfortable on the wing. I think he prefers to play in the middle as an AM player if it was down to him and we've all seen his surging runs and ability to get long distance shots on target...Would have scored the other day if there had been anyone but Buffon in the goal with that 30 yarder. Where do you want to see him play and why?

How do you know we didn't turn him down?

Good luck to them as his knee is pretty much fucked.