Dr Venkman

Nothing, I cancelled in May or June. You just don't get your money back if you've already paid some.

It would save a lot of hassle if everyone would read and digest this. You two, man. The club has said....... They're proven liars. Pardew has said...... One of your main lines of argument is that he talks shit!

...especially now the club is actively avoiding competing in it That old chestnut. Avoiding a top 6 finish, are you really that thick? Do you honestly believe we will throw matches just so we fall short of it? Not so much throwing matches but selling our best player and the severe lack of incoming transfers do suggest they don't want to finish top 6. Add to that a lot of the quotes attached to Pardew which belittle the Europa League and it does appear that they would rather not have the hassle. They've already accepted they aren't too arsed about Cup competitions so why would they want to qualify for another. I think you may be being naive. Pardew wants to finsih as high up the league table as possible, to think otherwise is mental. The players themselves will be in the same boat trying to push for it as well, precisley why we are only 7 points of a champions league spot. Not that i think we are capable of getting in that position but at least they are keeping themselves in touch with the top 6 teams and not just folding away like other clubs have. Pardew doesn't get what he wants, that's not the way the club is ran. The powers that be will be doing all they can to avoid another Europa League campaign. It's almost been admitted in interviews/fan meetings. It's nonsense. In the same sense that the idea Pardew would personally benefit from NUFC having a healthy bank balance was nonsense?

Well, given we also have no real interest in the cups (for similar squad depth reasons as Europe), surely that's the same thing? Do you think the club would be pleased if we managed to finish in the Europa spots the season? We'd all be awaiting the draw and planning flights, the club would be bemoaning the expense and hassle. Well no, it's not the same thing at all. Many clubs see the Europa League as a hassle, and many clubs prioritise the PL over the cups. I don't like it but it's a fact, and it doesn't mean they aren't trying to finish as high up the league as possible. They aren't, Ian. That would involve spending the money we can afford on improving the squad.

...especially now the club is actively avoiding competing in it It really isn't, and this is a moronic thing for people to keep saying. Ashley took legal advice on the ramifications of us not bothering to compete in the Europa League last season. That came from the only proper ITK we've got.

Why does it concern you how much we pay for a player? I doubt the fans of those clubs give a shit about how much they pay either. Because now we support balance sheets, it's the only area of the club where there's any hope of success.

Only time in memory I've gone into a derby genuinely thinking we'll get beat.

Nice one

Should we wait and see if we actually play well first? : lol:

Sweepstake on how long after the game Pardew is still telling everyone we played well? Till August?

I'm sure that if we lose this, our rage will be 'faux'.

Can sell him for a profit in the summer? Too risky, he might take time to settle in. If we're paying upwards of 10m he'd have to do extremely well from the off for that to work. Next.

He could end up going somewhere else. Just get someone else further down Carr's list, cheaper. Next.

Can anyone think of one reason to bring this player in now, from Ashley's point of view. I can't.

I used to look forward to it, Pardew's broken me. I really don't want to watch but I might not be able to stay away.

Reminds me of this post: It's true though, I've associated smug, non-sensical tedium with that poor kid's face now and there's no going back. July 2013!

Pardew is bad enough in these games when we've got a full squad to pick from ffs.

Why? Court case, presumably. Ahh yeah, forgot about that

Why?

Linesman tells the ref he's fucked up sending Remy off so he sends Johnson off to compensate. Appalling refereeing.

just switched this on. both the Ameobi's are on the pitch and HBA isn't. the fuck?

Before this Cabaye stuff I was seriously thinking about avoiding the derby at the weekend. I seem to care less by the day, don't like it but that's the way it's going.

Give over, are you suggesting that people who are against the sale don't understand how transfers work? I am 100% against the sale of Cabaye and I don't care if he wants away, he has a contract here and would not dare huff if we refused to sell he has a World Cup squad to make. The offer of say £20m may be what he is worth but like Carroll I would not sell unless the offer way WAY over his worth and offered with plenty of transfer window remaining. I however do not blame Pardew for any of this at all in any way. Nice. A new chant for the strawberry corner.

Makes no difference at all to the outcome. Just winds people up that the so called manager of the team is complicit in dismantling it.

Howay man, that was daylight robbery and everyone knows it.