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You can't really experience anything unless you watch it on a screen after all.

Fine, I'll take all my opinions from MOTD, who reckon the ground was half empty, I'll ignore the evidence my eyes tell me, the TV knows all. Perhaps all games should be played behind closed doors, we'll just be fed by Sky and Setanta, whatever they want to show us.

Blaming a small banner which went around a couple of times for a loss to Hull is pathetic, grasping at straws. Trying to claim the high ground because your kids got a bit of a ribbing in London is laughable. If they support NUFC they're destined for much ridicule whatever, they may as well get used to it.

His little flowers have to deal with some football banter. Boo hoo.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be protest and never would. But I give a shit about how it makes us look to the rest of the country and not just because I'm from the north east and live in London. The coverage on the tv of that particular banner made it come across as crass and ignorant. Whatever the points made about the loose use of the words "cockney" and "mafia" or whatever, most people just don't get that. I've spent half the day dealing with it - I'm not really in a position to say "I don't give a fuck." My two lads have had nothing but shite off people all week and at their football this morning. Then we have to start dealing with that. Whatever the message was meant to be, it came across all wrong and as someone who's had to deal with it outside the comfort zone of Newcastle and thereabouts, it's not been at all good, for the reputation of the north east, its people and Newcastle United supporters in particular. You should be apologising to your kids for moving there.

"record attendance at the city of manchester stadium...." and SJP was half empty according to the BBC. I trust we'll annoy them with emails for this shit.

He was there. Then he's more brainless than I thought.

On MOTD now.

Liam. One question, were you there? Genuine question, and I don't judge supporters who don't attend. Unless they think they know anything about a game and the events surrounding it.

I wasn't slightly embarrassed by it, and I have been in the past many times by some supporters actions, including booing the team and leaving at 65 minutes. What I saw today was fair enough from supporters in the ground and out of it, a justifiable venting of frustration done peacefully.

They were speaking for many, the reason being to get it on TV. Not everyone will approve, there's a thousand opinions. In no sense did that lead to a shocking performance.

What riots?

Bullshit motherfucker. Have to say I agree with you. That protest had precisely the sum of fuck all effect on what was a totally shoddy performance from the players today. In fact, I applauded them. I think the following two quotes basically sum up my opinion on today's protests: (1) "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke (2) "I may not agree with what you say, but to your death I will defend your right to say it." - Voltaire There's no reason philosophy can't live alongside football. As Descartes once said "that's a fucking right sending off ref!" Support for the team was fine today, though I don't doubt the instability of the club had some effect, I'm annoyed that armchair people think they know what happened. The BBC were reporting a half empty ground. Well OK I was late, not through protest, just that a nephew had a late night and couldn't get his shit together. The ground was full though yes? Admittedly buoyed up by Hull supporters, who were understandably joyous. Nah, the ground wasn't full - a fair few empty seats around the place to be honest. The thing that struck me today was the place was like a morgue most of the time (unsurprisingly). Far fuller than the Bolton game, the boycott predictably didn't happen.

Bullshit motherfucker. Have to say I agree with you. That protest had precisely the sum of fuck all effect on what was a totally shoddy performance from the players today. In fact, I applauded them. I think the following two quotes basically sum up my opinion on today's protests: (1) "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke (2) "I may not agree with what you say, but to your death I will defend your right to say it." - Voltaire There's no reason philosophy can't live alongside football. As Descartes once said "that's a fucking right sending off ref!" Support for the team was fine today, though I don't doubt the instability of the club had some effect, I'm annoyed that armchair people think they know what happened. The BBC were reporting a half empty ground. Well OK I was late, not through protest, just that a nephew had a late night and couldn't get his shit together. The ground was full though yes? Admittedly buoyed up by Hull supporters, who were understandably joyous.

Just back from the game were you?

If you ask me. Though I prefer I Yell At Mice.

Weyse keys http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/sep/13/newcastleunited.premierleague

You want sympathy for this?

It's probably little consolation, but Stevie Wonder on Woss now.

does that mean the discussion reached an unsatisfactory conclusion or that they didn't reach any definite conclusion? it's a mystery... Oh man, as if this evening wasn't bad enough I now have a Toyah song in my head.

You don't get that figure without effort.

Collicini before kick off, telling us about the sensible way to cross the road. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JE8Lk2kSCDo

I predict we'll all be cheering at a helicopter tomorrow. A police helicopter looking out for trouble, but whatever.

Just a hotel employee could leak this, it's not like they're Mafia. Thats what i meant So you did, still holding my chest due to the tension, comprehension is playing second fiddle. Let's face it, it would be dull to support a stable club...

Just a hotel employee could leak this, it's not like they're Mafia.