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Theres no excuse for them being in the squad let alone the team.

James Upson Terry Dawson Johnson Cole Barry Lampard Gerrard Cole Rooney Euro 96 stylee. For me, you don't drop Rooney, Lampard or Gerrard unless they're not 100% fit or their heads aren't right. Also, the wide players have not performed well at all hence the reason Lennon, SWP and Milner would be nowhere near my first team.

Callum Davenport without the steely edge.

Where's that? Skybet?

Agree with this - I didn't think Barry was too bad, all things considered (fitness etc). The players were very poor but the systems not right either so a combination of the two caused tonight imho. Something is definitely not right behind the scenes though and when the players are back on English soil and Capellos history it will come out.

England's Press have been arrogant about this since November, or December. Since the draw, whenever that was. Changed for truth.

Suspended. Highlight of the night, tbf. Commentator - "Carragher has been booked which means he misses the game against Slovenia on Thursday" Me - "GTFI" Defense was the best part of the England side today tbh. In fairness Algeria played 1 up front and he was anonymous so they weren't under too much pressure - we would've had more of a chance if Cole and Johnson had pushed further up more often and pegged their midfield back too.

Fuck knows what Slovenia will think of that.

I'll be in the bath with a box of razors if anyone wants me. Messy bikini line Keef? £10 on Keef's bikini line having a better shape than the England side. It see's more balls than our forward line did tonight that's for sure. There's probably a 'biggest prick' joke in there somewhere too. I wouldn't go that far.

I'll be in the bath with a box of razors if anyone wants me. Messy bikini line Keef? £10 on Keef's bikini line having a better shape than the England side. It see's more balls than our forward line did tonight that's for sure. I'm uncomfortable with this now. New blades please?

I'll be in the bath with a box of razors if anyone wants me. Messy bikini line Keef? £10 on Keef's bikini line having a better shape than the England side. It see's more balls than our forward line did tonight that's for sure.

I was convinced before tonight that he did announce the team to the players in decent advance, and it's just that they're must tighter with regards to blabbing to the press. After watching that I'm not so sure. Apparently Green found out he was dropped from the press.

Or Walcott or Adam Johnson or Franz Carr? Or Kevin Carr Or Jimmy Carr.

Or Walcott or Adam Johnson or Franz Carr?

I'll be in the bath with a box of razors if anyone wants me. Messy bikini line Keef?

The system doesn't suit Lampard who, along with Rooney, is another I wouldn't ever drop if fully fit.

I'm sorry but unless he's carrying a knock you don't drop Wayne Rooney. He's had to drop deeper and deeper over the last two games to get involved because there's fuck all movement up top with Heskey and the midfield is being totally outnumbered and out-battled which is why the first and only sub needed today was Heskey off/Joe Cole on. None of this SWP bollocks. If he was getting any degree of service he'd create something. I agree his touch was very very poor today but an England team without him will create absolute naff all.

Agree with all of that APART from the bit about "should" be able to beat Slovenia who are no mugs. I think we'll struggle to be honest.

Totally agree. He's done himself no favours. Nailed on to get sent off during the next match if we're struggling.

Shite. ITV suck cock.

"Nice to see your own fans boo yer" or "Nice to see the home fans boo yer".

Agree and it has to be Upson.

Oh aye, definitely. We'll get away with tonight - without a shadow of a doubt. And not just because we've got easy opponents in our group. It's just so fucking frustrating that the errors are still being ironed out in the tournament itself. The friendlies were just fucking rubbish. If he's supposedly known his team all along (more or less), why didn't Milner get a shot at the left-wing then? Why didn't Green play against Platinum Stars? What was the fucking point of playing Joe Hart if he was gonna be third choice all along? That last friendly was a great opportunity to relax a few nerves and try and begin some continuity. If we're still chopping and changing by the Second Round we'll not get anywhere memorable. We should have had more friendlies and we should have done more with the ones that we did have. I also think, and i've said this from the moment the draw was completed, we would have benefitted a heck of a lot more by having atleast one decent opponent in the group. Set the tone and raise the bar from the very first kick off. We're liable to get into a stride of dilly-dallying past these also-rans, then getting caned against someone good. It's a risky game. We'll be reet though. Think that's because James is carrying a knock. I think he might drop Green for the next game if James is fit.

Not having a go here but what made you think he was brilliant? Seems to have totally lost his spark to me. I thought the whole Studio team for ITV was as weak as piss. For Keegan it's that old "England supporting pundit having to front up to a seriously underwhelming result" syndrome. It's not easy tbh.... Thought he was lifeless throughout mate. Mind you sitting between Chiles and Southgate it's a wonder he turned up. Not taking anything away from what he's done for NUFC the first time around or anything it's just he seems like he's lost the love to me.

QFT.