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I'll add nmy support to those like bowlingcrofty, who show respect to an individual who has no more for our club than any other person in modern times. No one said the man was perfect, but if you think he betrayed us by leaving when he did then please just stop and take one look at the incompetence that was operating above him.

So according to this,Newcastle United are looking at a player deemed surplus to requirements at Notts Forest, bloody hell have things got that bad ?

So there are only two people available for the Newcastle Manager's role. Think I'll put my CV in, 1 in 3 chance is pretty good odds iyam.

You are either a really shitty wind up merchant or completely off your tits. There's a world of difference between Jose and Hughton. The guy makes Roeder look like he's full of backbone. Hughton simply does not have the relevant attributes to ever make it as a manager of people. How the f*** do you know that. If Sir Bobby's translator can go from being just that, to being one of the best managers in the world, why can't Chris Hughton. I'm not saying that he will but ffs , the lads got masses of experience and we now look like were playing with a bit of team spirit again. don't you think the players at the club know who this guy is. Are they not professional Jesus christ. Have you not learned from his abject performance last season when he took on the job, or the recent memories of a stronger jellyfish in Roeder being given the job. He is not a bloody manager, end of story.

I woke up this morning all excited about the annoucement this morning, and this is what we get ?? FFS, just more delaying tactics, do they not recognise the fact that the transfer window is a week away from closing now ? Someone has to take some responsibility here, either Moat get his bloody act together and sort out the finances or Ashley tell him to screw it and look to adress the recruitment of a Manager and players. This is fucking ridiculous.

if we had a bloody manager and a board that gave a shit we would cruise to promotion IMO. However we don't and our biggest rival is probably ourselves. The WBA, Boro, Cardiff and Sheff Utd. Before today's game I would have included Palace into that because of neil warnock but clearly they are not one of the better teams in the league. It's still way too early though to start predicting anything but the signs are encouraging that as I thought the hogwash about this being a tough league was exactly that.

I think perhaps Owen is my most hated ex player. I can't think of too many I have disliked after they left. Andy Cole after the singing thing, never liked Kenny Sansom after using us as a stepping stone to get his career back on course, Jenas for the goldfish bowl. Gazza at the time of his move to spuds, I can still remeber the atomoshere and the mars bars on his return to SJP in spurs colours, but I didn't hold any long term grudge. Given for engineering his move when we needed him most. Bassong for just being a twat after we gave him his chance. Duff for being such a waste of space. But Owen's on a different level to all of them, the hate I feel towards him is scary, he's in the right place at Manure, I despise everything about that club, especially that twat of a manager. Sorry just had to get that off my chest.

You are either a really shitty wind up merchant or completely off your tits. There's a world of difference between Jose and Hughton. The guy makes Roeder look like he's full of backbone. Hughton simply does not have the relevant attributes to ever make it as a manager of people.

If you really need someone to answer that, then to be frank you're a little slow. I will indulge you anyways. A coach, well coaches the players, he'll run the training session, help the manager picks the tactics, work on getting the players fit. A manager, well he manages the players, he'll motivate them, bollock them when they screw up, pick the team, buy players and dictate how his coaches coach. I'm sure you really didn't need the obvious stated but I did anyway.

This is exactly what is becoming increasingly more frustrating for me. If I didn't think this kind of thinking was beyond Ashley and Llambias, I would be sure these stories are deliberately planted to keep people worrying about us selling more players rather than the big issue of us not acttually buying anyone else to fill the gaps left in the squad. Crazy how the transfer speculation thread is so small and inactive.

I certainly wouldn't. If we sold 3 more senior players we would have next to no chance of coming straight back up. Especially if the new owner was too poor to buy any replacements.

That's just un fucking believeable. Have they no concept of transfer windows are something ?

I can't bleieve people are already starting to warm to the idea of the man taking on the job on a permenant basis, exactly as they did with Roeder. Haven't you people learned anything ? Hughton is a good coach but a shit manager. The results this season are not remarkable, they should have been expected. The team has clearly bonded due to the adversity and that's helping us, as are the un newcastle like lack of injuries. We should win promotion with the squad of players we have, even with the sales, most if not all the championship teams would happily swap squads with us given the chance. If Hughton was to get the gig full time and simply do a competent job, which is all that it will take to get us promoted back, then he'll go into the new PL season and most probably fall flat on his face, because he simply doesn't have the managerial skill to keep us up. We would confirmed as a yo-yo club, something we desperately need to avoid by going straight back up and pushing on. Don't be fooled by a few good results, this man is not a manager.

One sale too far for me, and it may well be for a lot of fans, I except the heat to be turned up considerably on Ashley once this one goes through. It also signals clearly that there is not immenent sale as no way in hell would Moat give this his blessing unless it's the only way he could afford to buy the club, unlikely though.

We can't even afford them to take him, have you seen our squad ??

SSN have a reporter at the Everton game, just said he understood Everton have opened discussions with Newcastle over Taylor and it was bringing the Lescott saga to a close. Considering Llambias was on Radio Newcastle about 2 hours ago, makes me f***ing sick. They can be talking to us but we don't know if we are listening. This would be a hammer blow to us TBH, we only have 2 centre halves and to lose one would kill us naturally but there is also the symbolic nature of it. Taylor is the local lad, the future star, bleeds black and white, it would be a clear indication that we are returning to the bad old days when we sold the likes of Gazza, Beardsley and Waddle. I hope we tell them to fuck off, because we can not afford this, who the hell are we going to stick in there, Sol hasn't signed yet and even if he does he'll not be match fit for a good few weeks yet. Complete stupidity TBH, but not out of keeping with this ownership

Well it was inevitable after the start we've made. I'll not be surprised in the slightest if he's confirmed as manager by the end of next week.

If something does not happen tomorrow then I think it's too late for this season. We'll be down to the last week of the transfer window by then.

Roeder would go in the totally clueless category, Curbs or Strachen would count in my list of capabale and probably willing to work within the constraints, as would the likes of Dave Jones, Bristol City's manager (whoever he is) and even old heads like George Graham.

Nobody knows for sure because nobody knows our full wage bill. But my guesstimate based on what we've heard in the press is around 24 million has been saved. That does not include any relegation clause the players still here may or may not have had in their contracts. I still can not believe for one second that the club did not employ lawyers that insisted we put those into our contracts. Couple this with the 25 million or so we've reportedly made through sales and we've done a lot to claw back our finances.

Of course we would prefer a quality manager. But we've got to look at our short term problem first, namely being in the championship. We are not going to attract a quality manager down here, so we need someone with promise or someone capable of getting us back into the prem. Once we are there we can think more long term, but we are a championship club now and we need to set our expectations appropriately. Again what we NEED is a manager capable of getting us out of this divison, what we would LIKE is a quality manager.

At this point in time I would sooner Ashley just called the whole sale thing off. The press are already saying the moat deal is unlikely and we really need to concerntrate now on the season, there's only 12 days left of this transfer window and we need a manager and some semblance of a squad. If he calls the sale off there's no need to worry about how many days there are left to the transfer window, because Ashley is leaving the decision so late on purpose so he doesn't have to invest in a proper manager or expensive players. Expect Kinnear or Hughton to get the job and maybe a couple of loan signings. Fat Ash will think he's done a grand job and will sit back and wait for promotion. I'm still not buying into the Ashley killing the club on purpose crap. I'm sorry but he's not rich enough to want to just throw about a quarter of a billion pounds, just because he hates all Geordies. Clueless yes, and absolutely can see him hiring the likes of Hughton or JFK. But I would sooner this one is put to bed, the uncertainty is killing us and since the sale looks as far off as ever, lets just concerntrate on making the best of a bad situation. He clearly doesn't want to own the club anymore and we obviously don't want him but surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce that this is not the right market to be trying to sell the club for a price he regards as reasonable. If he can get a manager in and sort out the squad, there's f*** all in this division, so promotion is more than just possible. Then his asset if worth a whole lot more next year, of course that would mean we go through this s*** again next season, but I think that's inevitable anyway. I don't buy into the "killing the club on purpose" crap either, that's not what I was getting at. Ashley just wants to get the best price he can while investing as little as possible. It's what he's done from day one in almost all of the transfer windows. He probably figures the squad has a good shot at getting promotion if he can get a couple of cheap loanees in, but hiring a quality manager will mean spending on players which he doesn't want. The thing is we don't even need a quality manager, for this division, just someone who isn't totally clueless (ie. not Hughton or JFK). He can pick one of those guys up, who will be willing to work within financial constraints, pretty easily. End this now, before the transfer window is lost to us, then we really are fucked because the squad is just not deep enough.

I'm sure it was real torment picking up 70 grand a week. I'd let someone hit me with a cane for an hour a day for that. Pisses me off the crap some footballers come out with when they leave. "Oh it didn't work out for me", "I didn't enjoy my time". They never take responsibility for their own failings, I can understand why of course, it's only in autobiographies after they retire that a few honest ones admit, " I played really shit for the club". Never once did Damien Duff perform for NUFC, he did nothing to justify the wedge that he was on and if anything an apology to the fans for his injury plagued time with us is more fitting.

At this point in time I would sooner Ashley just called the whole sale thing off. The press are already saying the moat deal is unlikely and we really need to concerntrate now on the season, there's only 12 days left of this transfer window and we need a manager and some semblance of a squad. If he calls the sale off there's no need to worry about how many days there are left to the transfer window, because Ashley is leaving the decision so late on purpose so he doesn't have to invest in a proper manager or expensive players. Expect Kinnear or Hughton to get the job and maybe a couple of loan signings. Fat Ash will think he's done a grand job and will sit back and wait for promotion. I'm still not buying into the Ashley killing the club on purpose crap. I'm sorry but he's not rich enough to want to just throw about a quarter of a billion pounds, just because he hates all Geordies. Clueless yes, and absolutely can see him hiring the likes of Hughton or JFK. But I would sooner this one is put to bed, the uncertainty is killing us and since the sale looks as far off as ever, lets just concerntrate on making the best of a bad situation. He clearly doesn't want to own the club anymore and we obviously don't want him but surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce that this is not the right market to be trying to sell the club for a price he regards as reasonable. If he can get a manager in and sort out the squad, there's fuck all in this division, so promotion is more than just possible. Then his asset if worth a whole lot more next year, of course that would mean we go through this shit again next season, but I think that's inevitable anyway.

At this point in time I would sooner Ashley just called the whole sale thing off. The press are already saying the moat deal is unlikely and we really need to concerntrate now on the season, there's only 12 days left of this transfer window and we need a manager and some semblance of a squad.