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Gutierrez dropping a deuce at the break.

Agree with Apisith.

I really really hate how quickly the central mids knock the ball back to our defenders, particularly as they are never really in that much space to receive it.

It stinks.

Jonas hasn't been in the game at all. Kinnear's solution rather than instructing us to pass him the ball more will be to take him off.

I'm worried about the same thing.

In my nightmare the same will apply to Zoggy with Duff.

Anyone else think Martins is better away from home?

He seems to play at a more controlled pace i.e. not as over excited and hyperactive almost.

Guthrie and Butt put the onus on our defenders a bit too much for my liking.

You can see Butt slowly thinking every single move through.

Look down at ball. Plant left foot. Plant right foot. Take one touch with left foot. Kick ball with right foot. Painful to see how his brain slowly facilitates each thought or idea.

No quick reactions whatsoever.

Nicky Butt's brain is soooooooooooooooooooo slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

Yikes ...

This is why he is necessary guys

Guthrie's delivery is sublime.

Why anyone else ever takes freekicks or corners I will never know.

Nicky Butt is killing us already.

Losing tyhe ball everytime.

Sky Sports carry some of those comments but quote Kinnear as saying he's already put a bid in for a left back playing in England.

 

If it's Warnock we may have more of a chance than we did in the summer given their season so far.

More likely to be Baines I reckon.

Sky Sports carry some of those comments but quote Kinnear as saying he's already put a bid in for a left back playing in England.

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4643937,00.html

Loos like those Enrique quotes might be fabricated which is out of order.

I do like the fact that we are looking to get 5 players in though.

That would be great.

We were linked witht his guy in the summer weren't we?

He was one of the sort of not so obvious types we were linked with throughout the summer and it was hard to tell if we were really after them or not.

Should be interesting to see if we bring a number of these types of players in January. It would probably be a clear indication that Wise and his team were really after these sorts, which Keegan wasn't as comfortable with.

I actually find it quite infuriating that Owen hardly ever shoots from outside the box even when the opportunity presents itself.

 

Shooting from outside of the box should not be seen as a negative as it keeps defences honest.

 

Or you play the percentages, which players like Owen do.

What percentages? We hardly create any chances so if you have space around the box then shoot the damn ball! We actually need more of this at the moment tbh. Martins vs Villa was a prime example.

If we created chances like Arsenal all day then I might agree with you, but we don't.

Guess Shearer was just as thick as Oba because he didn't always play the percentages right? 

I actually find it quite infuriating that Owen hardly ever shoots from outside the box even when the opportunity presents itself.

Shooting from outside of the box should not be seen as a negative as it keeps defences honest.

Suazo would be quality if we needed a striker.

 

We might do if Owen leaves.

 

That's what i meant.

Gotcha 

Suazo would be quality if we needed a striker.

We might do if Owen leaves.

harsh on Viduka tbh, he's obviously worked hard to get back into shape

Viduka hasn't worked hard for at least 5 years now. Quite frankly he's a parasite.

I was embarrassed we signed him tbh. You have to wonder what the hell we were doing signign Boro's scraps.

Humiliating.

He's doing it because he is bitter as he has now realised we took him to the cleaners as Milner is clearly not a footballer.

Vey clear from this thread that most people will agree that martins' game has not improved since he joined us as was mentioned last week. He had better hope that he doesn't have an injury that can take away his extra yard of pace because he has little to offer over and above that.

 

I wonder if he is so dumb that he considers himself the finished article?

 

 

Last season I remember Lee Dixon talking about Martins' development as a player on MOTD. He said that he is still the same player that he saw play against Arsenal at  Highbury few years earlier.(When Inter won 3-0) He added that he is unlikely to improve and that's just the way he plays.

 

I agree that he hasn't improved very much at all.

 

That's pretty much what I've been saying since we signed him. There's some players you get who you can nurture. Bellamy is a prime example. Martins though just doesn't seem to have the brain or overall technique to improve. Someone mentioned it last week, Owen's brain in Martins body would be the best striker in the world.

 

spot on opinion,

 

the only thing still with martins is he has time on his side

 

I just don't see it though. It's not like he's 19-20, he should be pretty close to the finished article now. I know some people use Drogba as an example of how you get late developers in the game, but Drogba didn't play in academies and have the training facilities with top coaches that Martins has had at Inter and us (less the top coaches bit ) until he went to Marseille which was later in his career. If Martins was going to develop as a lot on here hope and seem to expect, I don't think there's a cat in hell's chance Inter would have sold him.

 

Whether he's improved, or is capable of improving isn't really the point. He's quick and he creates and scores goals, and we don't have anyone else who we can replace him with just yet.

 

My vote is to stick in a counter bid of £50 million for David Villa and then put Oba on the bench. Wake me up when that happens, until then I'd rather keep Martins on the pitch.

 

And until then I'd sooner have Owen & Viduka.

 

That's absolutely mental quite frankly.

A sick and twisted part of me wishes we were forced to witness this "dream duo" for a couple of games or so.

That would soon learn some people on here really quickly.

Can't believe people would actually bring Viduka back even on a pay as you play deal. Why on Earth would you do such a thing with the whole summer ahead of you? What a disgusting thought.

 

 

 

Eh?  Why not if he only gets paid when he plays?  He can't hide/pretend not to be fit because he won't be paid.  Also if he's s*** in games he doesn't get picked and so also won't get paid.  Where's the downside here? 

The downside is he is too old, too fat and too crap. It would be much more worthwhile getting in someone who is actually interested in football. We don't need his stinking unprofessional behaviour around the place any longer.

Can't believe people would actually bring Viduka back even on a pay as you play deal. Why on Earth would you do such a thing with the whole summer ahead of you? What a disgusting thought.