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I'm not surprised tbh. There have been persistent noises about SA having taken Bolton as far as he could. Bolton have been reluctant to spend a lot more because better and more expensive payers won't convert into more bums on seats, more sponsorship or a better position in the league. Allardyce will go to Citeh if Ranson's consortium is successful from what journos are saying, if not, who knows? The fact that, with Bolton's agreement, Spurs have had talks with Anelka ( >) says quite a bit really. Anelka to replace Berbatov? Juve have offerred 14.6m Euro for Anelka which Bolton were considering 2 weeks ago, that was the start of the end for SA. I can understand his frustration. IMO they are 2 big players short of challenging for top 4. Anelka would be a huge asset to any PL club. :parky: Isn't that what Bolton payed for him though? So they aren't even looking to make a profit on Anelka? Gartside is an idiot ...

I'm not surprised tbh. There have been persistent noises about SA having taken Bolton as far as he could. Bolton have been reluctant to spend a lot more because better and more expensive payers won't convert into more bums on seats, more sponsorship or a better position in the league. Allardyce will go to Citeh if Ranson's consortium is successful from what journos are saying, if not, who knows? The fact that, with Bolton's agreement, Spurs have had talks with Anelka ( >) says quite a bit really. Anelka to replace Berbatov?

The last I heard (very recently too) is that there is abolutely no prospect of Berbs going anywhere this summer, Spurs don't want it and, more importantly, Berbs doesn't want it too. It shouldn't be forgotten that Man Utd made a late bid for him a couple of days before he signed for us. Berbs said then that he had decided what to do, the decision was made and he wasn't going to change it. More importantly, there is no pressure for Spurs to sell like there was with Carrick. Carrick had 2 years remaining and had said he wouldn't sign another, Berbs is only 1 year into a 3 year contract with an option for a further 2 years in the same way they had with Keane. So Spurs effectively have still got him under contract for another 4 years. Unless Berbs has a serious change of heart and starts making all the wrong noises, I don't think he will go anywhere for at least 1 year, probably 2. Depends very much also on how the club fares in that time but I'm not concerned about the speculation. It would be nice if you kept a hold off him, however if Chelsea start throwing £25million - £30million around ... I'm not so sure Tottenham could resist!

True ... That's why I have always had such respect for Arsenal because they don't just go round the premiership looking for smaller teams best players.

Is that in the same way that Newcastle pays better contracts. Spurs are sitting in the same area of the table as us and their wage bill I'm sure is a hell of a lot less. More clubs should take that stance of having a limit to their wage instead of the continually soaring demands. How many are really worth it, even the best in the world? Besides if Chelsea want a player they'll get them through huge bids, which any club will succumb to it doesn't matter which club it is. I agree completely about not overpaying. However the top earner at Spurs is Keane on £40,000 a week. That is a bit too low for a club like Tottenham in my opinion. Also, this has nothing to do with us as we have our own problems. The point is that if Tottenham pushed the boat out just a little bit more then they would probably be in the champions league by now! instead they are pretty mediocre despite how well they club is structured.

According to the journalist who was on Sky Sports this morning ... Said that high level people at Chelsea were very confident that Berbatov would be a chelsea player next season. If true Spurs really are becoming a bit of a joke club aren't they? Essentially a breeding ground for the top clubs! They really do need to start paying the players who are deserving of better contracts. What's the point of discovering and getting in good players if they all just leave anyway? You've got to hold onto some of them at least! It's good news for us though ...

According to the journalist who was in the Sky Sports studio this morning. Apparently he was told he would have to raise money in order to bring in any new players and was essentially told that he would have to sell Anelka. Allardyce was eager for financial backing this summer as he believed there would be money made availabe to him because of the new TV deal. He believed with a bit of money he could push Bolton even further and challenge for the champions league. What do you guys think? Hearing this I believe that he would definitely take the Newcastle job, because if there is one thing we do right it is provide money for managers. I bet Allardyce regrets not taking the Newcastle job when he was offered it! Big mistake by Sam. Will be interesting to see what happens. I am happy for Roeder to stay in charge for now and as long as we get players in very early I think we will do well next season and if we end up being mediocre then we can make a managerial change then. It's a shame the bif Sam situation didn't arise next summer as it might have been perfect for us. For now I think we should sit tight and continue with the summer plans we have put in place. Besides if we start very badly we can always do what we always do and bring Sam in a month into the new season!

On crack tbh. Why? Obviously, we do need to replace our defence, but the reality is that with Tevez in the team, the ball would spend a lot less time in our half, and thus we will score more and concede less. Assuming he becomes available, he is to good a player to pass up on even if it means not buying defenders. He would propel us to top 6, and then if we invested well in defence the following summer, we'd have a team that would be challenging for both league and cups. Dude ... Seriously calm down! You are getting way too over excited here.

Please ... Never even mention Bellamy again when talking about Tevez! Greatest insult to Tevez EVER!!! Tevez is brilliant, but would only make sense if Owen leaves for Man U. We can't keep stockpiling midgets upfront.

"Please don't hurt me! I'm O so fragile"

The Allardyce debate is a fascinating one ... I really wish he had got the England job just so we would all know once and for all how good he really is. I for one have no clue. He could excel or he could flop in my opinion. The one thing that doesn't work in his favour is his awful manner. He is brash and he is prone to having a proper whinge when he doesn't do well. A classic excuse maker and blame shifter when things don't work out. Also quick to give himself a pat on the back when things do go well. Therefore should things not work out well for him right off the bat I for one would be very frustrated because I wouldn't exactly be rooting for him to turn things around. If I am being honest I would probably lose patience with him very quickly. Allardyce does seem to be a guy who picks up players who are 'nobodies' and gets them to punch above their weight or he gets in guys who have been written off and gets them to play at a hgiher level again. He works well with the underdogs. However, could you really see him managing the kind of players that play at Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool or Arsenal? He always claims he wants a top club but I'm not sure the players at these clubs would respect him. I'm not sure they would play for him the way his cast offs do. He just doesn't seem to have the right demeanour about him. It's a tough one though I must admit. Just in comparison a manager that does seem to have a top manager demeanour about him his Readings Steve Coppell for example. I would be more inclined to believe Coppell would work well with big players than I would Allardyce. Just my opinion though ...

No No offence mate ... I'm not trying to have a go at all but it fascinates me how highly rated Bellamy is. He has outstanding speed but really not much else ... Against teams who are well organised at the back and who have at least one defender with decent mobility he is rendered ineffective. He will be caught offside the majority of the game. When his opprtunities to get in behind are limited he doesn't offer much else quite frankly. He will not get the classic poachers goals because he doesn't get into those positions. He doesn't shoot particularly well and so isn't a threat from outside of the box. Doesn't head well and so isn't a real threat when the ball is crossed into the box. He will therefore end up appearing to be a threat in rare occassions he is matched up one on one but will never quite deliver the telling pass or cross because he is not particularly good at this either. I know quite a few love him on here but he is actually quite simple as a footballer. looks great when he is running at full speed but isn't that threatening with a disciplined defence in front of him. Has been a massive let down for Liverpool this season and will certainly be moved on ...

he provides no explanation in any of his posts, just writes off other peoples opinions Bellamy is essentiallly a guy who has excellent speed which bothers defenders who are not very mobile but other than that ... He is caught offside quite a bit doesn't particularly pass the ball well or cross the ball well and doesn't have a threatening shot. He also isn't clinical in one on one situations. Isn't he supposed to be a striker? Not impressive at all.

HTL are you one of those people who is blinded by pace? You remind me of my little cousin who gets excited by any player who runs fast ... Could you please explain to me how Bellamy is a better striker than Crouch?

Allardyce will be the new Chelsea manager...

Exactly...

Dein was essentially a director of football.

Liverpool... Bellamy out & Saviola in is what I think.

We really need to do an Arsenal right now...and this is why I have been encouraged by Roeders desire to emulate Wenger. We essentially need to bring in young up and coming players who are still fairly priced and who would not yet be in a position to command large salaries. We also have to really work hard this summer to discover some players for ourselves and be able to evaluate talent on our own and not have to pay top money for players other teams have discovered. We need to discover our own Chimbondas basically! If we can do this we will be fine and we will be able to build up the squad without spending a ridiculous amount of money which will be good for us financially.

I'd be pleased to sign any of them - but ar'n't our biggest problems at the back.I think they want solving first. Goes without saying that we will be sorting out pur defence this summer. However I am talking about Owen perhaps leaving and the options we would have to replace him with the money from his sale, as we would definitely have to replace him if he left, along with getting some defenders in.

Love Tevez too. Robson enquired about him when he was manager and Roeder did enquire about Tevez last summer after the world cup but was told he wasn't for sale! So Tevez will at least be familiar with us. The great thing is he has also shown such committment despite being in a team that isn't going anywhere, so it is unlikely he would snub us unless a really top club came in for him. Maybe if Owen leaves Glenn will be back in for Tevez? Although I can't help but think it is more likely we will go for a bigger striker with pace if Owen goes...so most likely Bent. Bent and Martins would be something though...

This summer there will be a number of very impressive strikers available, quite a few of who have premiership experience and who have proved they can produe in this league. If the situation with Owen becomes a problem and a distraction and there are willing buyers, will it be a mistake to hold onto him, knowing he will not extend his contract and therefore we miss out on the chance to replace him with some very good players as he will then likely leave next summer anyway? Another side to this is the fact that the first three strikers mentioned in this thread are almost certain to gel better with Martins as their styles of play match Martins' better. Also, these three have showed they can definitely get it done in this league. Can we afford to miss out on this opportunity???

The reason I think it would work is because Roeder isn't a very strong personality and neither is he egotistical. I recall how much praise and credit he gave Shearer when Shearer assisted him last season, even though Roeder himself was actually the caretaker manager. Therefore I think Roeder will be accepting of Houlliers contributions regarding actual team matters and together they would get the best out of the team. In my opinion Roeder's strongest point is the fact that he is actually an alright sort of bloke and isn't really pig headed. He knows he has been very fortunate to land the Newcastle job considering what he went through and so i think he would not be adverse to workiing alongside Houllier no matter how much Houllier might want to contribute to first team matters. Would be an outstandingly good move that would definitely work I think.

Get Tevez in and wave little Mickey bye bye...

:lol: :lol: :lol: Thread of the century this.