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2 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Fair enough, got to respect his loyalty to them and they’re on the up

Yeah, that's fair enough.

We went about it the right way, didn't piss off Palace, and allowed Freedman the space to properly think it through and discuss further with Parish. He got himself a nice new contract, which is good for him.

We absolutely have to make sure we are bringing in people that are all in, and so not at all mad at this.

The Man United forum is just astonishing ... I can't look away.

They are now claiming we are finding it so hard to get a new director of football, and have been rejected by Freedman, because of how we've treated Dan Ashworth and used the press against him!

They've actually somehow made themselves victims in all of this.

I cannot wait for this arbitration case man 

6 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

He'll crash at burn like Moyes at Man U, or Potter at Chelsea.

 

Probably get a similar amount of time as them to do it too...

It's a very dangerous move for him for sure, because the Bayern leadership are absolutely mental.

A team like Brighton would be more of the kind of move he should make next, but we'll see what happens I guess.

25 minutes ago, toontownman said:

Wtf is going on with bayern and Chelsea lmao. 

Having been turned down by just about every experienced manager with a shred of self respect, they've seemingly decided to try and find their own version of an Alonso.

As far as Kompany goes, I actually rate him. His Burnley side were brilliant in the Championship, when the players he had were of a similar standard to the other teams in the league. The players were well short of Premier league standard though, especially for how he wanted to play.

Giving him a team of top quality players is going to be really interesting. We'll definitely find out for certain what he's made of.

55 minutes ago, 54 said:

Apparently Bayern are going to pay £20m of compensation for Kompany.

Meanwhile Man Utd are offering £2 million for 'best in class' Dan Ashworth.

29 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

Who the fuck would accept that ? 

We'll soon find out.

1 minute ago, Ronson333 said:

Problem is Ederson just raised his profile and quite a few big clubs will be wanting him now.

 

 

 

The Ederson thing was in case Joelinton had to move on this summer IMO. If the contract hadn't been sorted out.

None of Joelinton, Bruno, Tonali and Ederson would come off the bench for us, so doesn't really make sense.

9 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Lookman and Gordon have shown looking at base stats of G/A is meaningless, because if they’re in a crap side, they will be bad. It’s about their ability which both have shown since moving to sides that are attacking with good coaches.

Always found it terrifying how much of a difference the right coach/manager and the right kind of setup can have, and how much it can affect a whole career.

Always felt footballers are way too careless about the clubs they choose to join, without considering these things enough.

There's a world where Lookman is still stuck at Everton with Dyche, not getting the opportunities to show his best, and being called shit every week.

6 minutes ago, Mikky said:

He’s at a brilliant club - the amount of players they’ve churned out last 5/6 years - top coach Gasperini - been the nearly men for a while

Yeah, Atalanta has been great for him.

Seems a lot more disciplined, decisive and confident.

Ademola has finished these boys. My goodness.

What a level he's reached since going to Italy.

Been really good for the Super Eagles too.

Happy for him.

I saw a tweet explaining this whole Chelsea thing.

Apparently the manager has to agree to the guys upstairs not just being the ones who determine what players are brought in, but they will also have some say in the onfield tactical approach!

This is the reason why all the more experienced managers aren't being considered or aren't interested. It will be a young and relatively inexperienced head coach type, being directed from those above.

Oh my goodness ... Dan Ashworth man. Tried to throw Howe under the bus apparently 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13448385/Dan-Ashworth-cover-tracks-Newcastle-Man-United-Eddie-Howe.html

1 minute ago, gdm said:

The Man Utd fans calling Newcastle small time are the most entitled deluded football fans around. The fact Man Utd are offering half of what we paid for Ashworth while the scruffy auld cunt publicly talks up Ashworth is as small time as it gets  

I was gobsmacked at the way they were going on man.

They really think they should be the ones dictating how much should be paid for another club's asset, and how quickly the payment should be accepted.

Impossibly crazy people man.

57 minutes ago, Zero said:

Seriously this won’t end well. I really can’t see this going towards anyone’s favour

I genuinely can't understand these kinds of sentiments.

We've already moved on and are going about our business. Man Utd are the ones stuck in limbo.

The absolute worst case scenario is that he leaves and we get no pay off, which won't happen by the way, but that's the absolute worst case for us, which really isn't going to hold us back.

The longer it drags on the better, as it only further hampers Man Utd's plans.

Imagine a manager that conducts himself like this and that has done what he has so far at the club, and wanting anyone else in charge at the minute. Truly baffling.

Can't wait for next season. Think it's going to be a really big one.

Tottenham get battered, everywhere they go ...

1 minute ago, Turnbull2000 said:

Jesus they're utterly deranged on redcafe. Now complaining we're using the press. Ermm, that's precisely what Man U were doing to kick all this off.

 

In order, they have...

1. Disrupted our Dof via the press

2. Made a secret approach without contacting the club

3. Offered compensation below what we'd paid Brighton (who we formally approached and kept it all above board)

4. Publicly complained to the media that we wouldn't just give in to their demands.

 

What they fuck do they expect All they had to do was go through proper channels and not offer derisory, loss making compensation. Basically don't be cunts.

 

 

 

Someone was claiming they were sure we did the same with Ashworth when he was at Brighton, and he would reveal it 

Never mind the fact there was never any complaint or issue with Brighton and we never low balled them or had Ashworth take them to arbitration 

Football fans in general are embarrassingly biased, but my God, that place really is tragic.

2 minutes ago, Kanji said:

Just fyi @Froggy, you guys created this entire mess all on your own. Between the apparent tapping up, the inability to negotiate a fair release, your “billionaire” who can’t shut up over this whole issue and blabs about it on a TV interview and this entire idea and narrative that WE are being unreasonable. Your club, and all of its pomp and circumstance can fuuuuuck right off. 
 

You’re alright tho as you know. No issues with you mate. But seriously don’t even try and bait this shit. 

Let Froggy have his bit of fun. The tears will soon come.

We have the Euros, Copa America and Olympics this summer. Going to be a lot going on for a good number of players.

Howe confirmed the other day in an interview that the summer business started and has been in place since January.

The season has now ended and Man United are still dicking about and don't have some key people in place still, with no resolution over the manager either.

By the time they sort all that out and need to speak to players they're after, with this packed summer schedule, I think it could get very chaotic.

We will soon see.

Just now, ATB said:

Come on. Couldnt say something earlier? Wast of time. Good riddance.

He would have been interested enough to hear us out and receive an offer.

Parish has since held talks with him, and has likely made him some promises and perhaps offered him an increase in salary to match.

No big deal. 

There were a number of people that were approached and interviewed. Speak to the next best fit.

Worked well last time.

10 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

He’s still on salary. 

Yeah, great point actually 

The man is an absolute charlatan, making that claim, while continuing to collect his salary 

Just now, NE27 said:

 

Sure a phone call is deemed sufficient notice of resignation but understand most if not all would put it down in writing regardless for peace of mind and traceability.

 

Honestly would like this sorted with as little fuss as possible, although I do feel Ashworth has been a little rat and an example needs to be made here.

 

We aren't a pushover anymore.

 

We absolutely have to take this as far as need be. Even if it runs and runs. A precedent has to be set.

This is an unbelievable piss take of epic proportions.

Just now, NE27 said:

 

Do you need to write out a resignation letter?

 

I believe it is the typical formality, yes, but seems very far fetched claiming that means he was sacked. 

5 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

Freedman lives in Manchester, has done for years, didn't relocate his family for the palace job and won't do so for ours.

Ah, interesting. Didn't realise this  

3 minutes ago, Ginola14 said:

a lot of RC posters seem to think Newcastle are being small time by playing hard ball 

 

considering how badly run MU are, their sense of entitlement is astonishing 

Cannot believe the level of arrogance and stupidity on there.

Their time is coming though. All the signs are pointing to it, with this Ratcliffe guy in charge.

Ashworth is trying to claim that Darren Eales didn't have him write out his resignation letter before leaving, and so the gardening leave is not valid! Claiming that it means he was then essentially sacked, and so should be able to join Man Utd right away.

This could be the reasoning behind why they have lowballed us with the compensation. It's what they are banking on during arbitration.