Ronaldo

by far our most important and influential player tbh

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lovely assist by Rossi there for Villareal. 1-0

hope to god he keeps N'zogbia on the left wing though

why? he's not good enough to manager of nufc in any capacity other than short term

Did he f***, Lennon raced away from him time and time again, it was the excellent cover from N'Zogbia, Bassong and Jonas who kept Lennon in check. Twice he went past Enrique into the penalty box and sending in good crosses. Lennon impressed me today, excellent running and good decision making, although lazy in his tracking back. In Enrique's defence I think the none yellow card he received early on didn't help his game vs Lennon's. thought Enrique got to grips with him very well after the booking

just got back, we were poor for most part in the second half but who gives a bollocks Given - dealt with everything thrown at him, cool as you like 8 Beye - best performance of the season from him, great defensively 8.5 Coloccini - decent, played it out of defence well 7 Bassong - cant give him owt else, flawless 10 Enrique - struggled first 10 minutes and his touch can be poor but wrapped Lennon up the ugly way 8 Jonas - defended and scrapped well, needs to get forward a lot more 7.5 Butt - game bypassed him for the most part, but did well on the ball 7 Guthrie - like him a lot but wasteful today, battled hard as usual 6.5 N'zogbia - constant threat, on any other day he'd be motm, f*** all the idiots who played him LB 9 Owen - static, not involved much, wasted little in possession though 6 Shola - christ he was shitter than normal, poor 30 mins 4 Viduka - not fit, static, lack poise, get the ball to him and he's still dangerous though 6.5 Duff - my word, fair play to him 7

WOW was going to start a new topic on Bassong but this will do, absolutely phenomenal again today, i'd happily shake hands with whoever found him. If Colo is living up to his £10m price tag, Basssong is playing like a £15m central defender tbh. Has it all. Plays like a 30 year old who's spent his entire career in the premiership

Under Roeder (whilst under caretaker charge) we were fantastic though. When we started losing under him when he permanent manager he got a dog's abuse, including some shameful shite from yours truly.

passing ability and pace through the middle of the park. We presently have none.

aye I hope they sort it out. Especially when godawful, abominations of clubs like Stoke are 2 leagues higher

My best pal is a Leeds fan and informs me that Huntington is their best defender, says it all. Real shame for them like.

playing against farmers probably doesn't count

Back end of the 96-97 season. of course, the run that started with the 1-0 win at Highbury thanks to a Robbie Elliott header

Kinnear reported in tomorrow's papers as applying for the vacant job with the unwashed. Bollocks? Probably.

Good point, people seem to forget just how young Taylor is, i think he'll be class, hopefully now he'll work harder to get his place back in the first team. he's older than bassong. you can use age, settling in, learning the language etc... as an excuse up to a point, but you cant use it indefinately. taylor has some good aspects as a defender, but he has some real weaknesses in his game that were present during his debut and are still present now. its not impossible that he turns out to be a good defender, he does have ability, but at the moment he is a bottom 3 premiership/top6 championship defender in my opinion. if he doesn't improve he'll stay that way and i've seen little from him so far to suggest he's capable of changing. bramble could have been a really good defender if he'd manage to improve on his attributes at 19 into his mid twenties but he didn't. taylor is the same. His age was no concern for me he could be 28 for all it matters, but while he's been n the team he's had no competition so has slumped it happens to some familiarity breeds contempt as they say. In theory this will make or break Steven Taylor at Newcastle. no competition, are you pissed tonight or what mate? Souness - Bramble and Boumsong first choice Roeder - Bramble and Moore then Bramble and Onyewu first choice till last month of the season Allardyce - Faye and Cacapa first choice Keegan - first choice Kinnear - now Bassong and Coloccini first choice since SBR left and Taylor established himself as a first team player, only one of 5 managers has had him as first choice despite the generally woeful options for central defence. He's had s**** competition and still failed to rise to the required level. And still people see him as a good defender Taylor played more games than anyone else in Roeders full season IIRC, but don't let facts stop you talking s**** Taylor was constantly bypassed by Roeder for the CB slots. When fit, Moore and Bramble played ahead of him and when Onyewu arrived he and Bramble played together until Alkmaar (Onyewu was cup tied for the Uefa cup also) please, feel free to argue these facts. Taylor played more games in 06/7 than Bramble, Moore and Onyewu did. Your move Why bother. When the others we're fit and available he didn't though, that's the main consideration. He was either benched or played at full-back. Why you still defending him man? even the imcompetents like Allardyce and Kinnear have his number

aye, so they said. None we're particularly keen to play him ahead of Given, even when he was out of form

Explain to me again how Moore and Onyewu are relevant to the back five in the thread title petty as fuck, sometimes like arguing with a 16 year old. TBF I was arguing Nixon's point that he's not had adequate compeition in the past. No more arguing about Taylor, it's a waste of time when so many blinkard fuckers still think he's a future captain. It speaks volumes that even Kinnear, picks an unknown non-english speaking young lad with no premiership experience ahead of the local hero.

Is there any confirmation of Obas's absence or is it still going down to the pre-match fitness test

f*** me.. u21 captain for englands ffs. youre too harsh imo There's an arguement involving James Milner somewhere in there

Good point, people seem to forget just how young Taylor is, i think he'll be class, hopefully now he'll work harder to get his place back in the first team. he's older than bassong. you can use age, settling in, learning the language etc... as an excuse up to a point, but you cant use it indefinately. taylor has some good aspects as a defender, but he has some real weaknesses in his game that were present during his debut and are still present now. its not impossible that he turns out to be a good defender, he does have ability, but at the moment he is a bottom 3 premiership/top6 championship defender in my opinion. if he doesn't improve he'll stay that way and i've seen little from him so far to suggest he's capable of changing. bramble could have been a really good defender if he'd manage to improve on his attributes at 19 into his mid twenties but he didn't. taylor is the same. His age was no concern for me he could be 28 for all it matters, but while he's been n the team he's had no competition so has slumped it happens to some familiarity breeds contempt as they say. In theory this will make or break Steven Taylor at Newcastle. no competition, are you pissed tonight or what mate? Souness - Bramble and Boumsong first choice Roeder - Bramble and Moore then Bramble and Onyewu first choice till last month of the season Allardyce - Faye and Cacapa first choice Keegan - first choice Kinnear - now Bassong and Coloccini first choice since SBR left and Taylor established himself as a first team player, only one of 5 managers has had him as first choice despite the generally woeful options for central defence. He's had s**** competition and still failed to rise to the required level. And still people see him as a good defender Taylor played more games than anyone else in Roeders full season IIRC, but don't let facts stop you talking s**** Taylor was constantly bypassed by Roeder for the CB slots. When fit, Moore and Bramble played ahead of him and when Onyewu arrived he and Bramble played together until Alkmaar (Onyewu was cup tied for the Uefa cup also) please, feel free to argue these facts.

well no, i dont. Taylor's had (going by most opinions) shite competition in the last 4 years yet has only briefly been first choice CB, it's laughable how he's still here. it's a fact to be honest. The only thing you can argue is the ability of his competition. Or do you consider Moore and Onyewu to be good defenders?

a good centre back who's been at fault for no less than 7 goals this season? madness. He's absolutely diabolical and it's funny how people forget it the second he's benched for a few games Every time you post in this thread you mention Taylor. You need to just shag him & get it over with tbh. the thread is about Taylor

Good point, people seem to forget just how young Taylor is, i think he'll be class, hopefully now he'll work harder to get his place back in the first team. he's older than bassong. you can use age, settling in, learning the language etc... as an excuse up to a point, but you cant use it indefinately. taylor has some good aspects as a defender, but he has some real weaknesses in his game that were present during his debut and are still present now. its not impossible that he turns out to be a good defender, he does have ability, but at the moment he is a bottom 3 premiership/top6 championship defender in my opinion. if he doesn't improve he'll stay that way and i've seen little from him so far to suggest he's capable of changing. bramble could have been a really good defender if he'd manage to improve on his attributes at 19 into his mid twenties but he didn't. taylor is the same. His age was no concern for me he could be 28 for all it matters, but while he's been n the team he's had no competition so has slumped it happens to some familiarity breeds contempt as they say. In theory this will make or break Steven Taylor at Newcastle. no competition, are you pissed tonight or what mate? Souness - Bramble and Boumsong first choice Roeder - Bramble and Moore then Bramble and Onyewu first choice till last month of the season Allardyce - Faye and Cacapa first choice Keegan - first choice Kinnear - now Bassong and Coloccini first choice since SBR left and Taylor established himself as a first team player, only one of 5 managers has had him as first choice despite the generally woeful options for central defence. He's had s**** competition and still failed to rise to the required level. And still people see him as a good defender

a good centre back who's been at fault for no less than 7 goals this season? madness. He's absolutely diabolical and it's funny how people forget it the second he's benched for a few games