Ronaldo

unbelievable, the guy has gone from one extreme to the other

i for one pray they never get another chance to etablish a partnership. Cacapa for all his physical weaknesses at least knows exactly what he's doing out there

he looks certainly the most refined defender we've had since Albert tbh. On the ground he's probably the best i've seen in 15 years of going to the game. Still a lot of room for improvement though

tbf Martins would probably play twice as well with Xisco than Owen tbh

Everything going for him except pace looks quick to me

find it much more entertaining than the spanish league tbh, always have

Ameobi, big and black so therefore a useful striker, dont make me laugh. Complete joke if he's given any game time at the expense of Xisco's development

great player Rooney and all those foreign league obsessed twats who think he's nowt compared to Benzema and the like can fuck right off

swore i saw him 2 months back in the big market

now offically in his prime

good point. no wait its s***, cos lamps put us thru in 2006, owen scored 3 againt russ, rooney scored against croa, gerrard has ben absolte qual for 3 years nd j coe scored not too recently you're a very confused boy, note i said since 2006

He hasn't been great for England since 2006, but that goes for Rooney, Owen, J.Cole, Gerrard........ Take Gerrard out of the equation and Lampard for shine for England like he does for Chelsea

Nixon's a daft lad

For a guy who it sometimes seems has his head on his shoulders you're a right patronising b****** O'brien

Carlise is like 10 miles from the west coast, how the hell can anyone consider it NE? south of York is very much where the North East ends I reckon. I'm from Ryton (5 miles west of Newcastle) but living in Middlesbrough atm doing my masters at Teesside

up until 2 years ago I was happy to write Lampard off as a decent player who was playing alongside such quality (and taking so many shots at goal per game) that his reputation as one of the world's best was a sham. It's bollocks and I was wrong, Lampard is the complete midfield player and should be one on the first names on England's teamsheet

and all those goals he's scored for us were just penalties/deflections right? Not at all, but I'd imagine a reasonable percentage possibly have been. I'm not arsed about what he did a few years ago. Fact is he's ineffective at this level and has been for a few seasons. The fact that we continue to attempt to build the side around him & Gerrard as a partnership is the reason England are so poor. you're absolutely right, Gerrard has to go

and all those goals he's scored for us were just penalties/deflections right?

creating 3 goals is ineffective? come on

I fail to see any evidence of either them warranting a place in the team. Aye, the best option to take is probably to put one of them with Barry/Hargreaves... but i can't say either of them warrant 'absolutely having to be there' on the back of their general performances for the past four/five years. up until WC 2006 Lampard was playing very well for England tbh, although I didn't recognize it at the time. He still could be if they shift Gerrard

Lampard was responsible for the first two goals and made a hell of a pass to walcott for Rooney's first. He was very good throughout I though Heskey is a very useful player tbh, thought he was effective tonight

Lampard and Heskey were the best players tonight to be fair

Gerrard and Lampard are comfortably the best CM's that England have, just not as a pairing. Lampard absolutely has to be there though

Lampard motm for me, class