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I can never decide whether Billy's love of Gerrard contributes to his dislike of Lampard or vice versa.

Lampard scored a perfectly legitimate peach in the World Cup against Germany to be fair. Scored in CL final, CL semi finals and a great goal to win the FA cup final too. Both scored crucial goals when it mattered.

I must admit some pals of mine ran into him at Elland Road when his son played there and gave him a bit of grief which he took in very good humour.

You certainly would. Everton away in 2006, left foot chip against Hull, that goal against Barca in the CL. Incredible strikes.

I think if you had to acquire one of them aged 25 with a view to having them in your side for 10 years, Lampard's easily the sensible pick. He'd guarantee you 200 goals, well over 100 assists, never get injured and generally be a committed leader and class act on and off the field. You can't really contend with that.

Yep - I would say that Nolan was a fair bit more overweight than HBA. I'd also say that Nolan's weight issues were often discussed and criticised on here.

I'm trying to be nice this week but that post is a hideous car crash.

Relatively prosperous? That's an understatement, like.

Bridges was probably assured by his agent there'd be a better offer that never materialised.

If I had to sign one of them for 10 years of their peak it'd be Lampard. Scholes was the greatest of the 3 on his best day, though.

I just think it's the development of established talent that's all wrong. I've talked about implementing a B team system before. And yes, money contributes to the issues. As someone said not so long back. Sammy Ameobi, 22, achieved nowt in the game so far, looked out of his depth in the PL and CL, yet he posts pictures of himself driving a Range Rover and mincing about with large wads of cash. Where's the incentive for him to really knuckle down and struggle to get better? Of course, there are some players with massive talent and massive drive, but they're rare in most developed countries.

Stopped you there. Indeed but just plain old average to good for England. Bobby Moore was a great player for England, KK, Lineker and even David Beckham. But not Gerrard. I've always thought Lampard has been a better player for the national side. Yeah. I think Lampard's slightly more static playing style has always been a bit better suited to international football.

I 100% believe he came back carrying too much weight around the middle for someone with a small frame and the pictures he posted substantiate that. Not saying it's any sort of excuse for his treatment but it's indicative of his 'couldn't really give a fuck' attitude off the field.

More the middle of the season. I just think Sammy's not really improved one bit since his debut well over 3 years back. A lot of the blame for that has to be pointed elsewhere, mind.

This is bollocks like. Another myth that's become fact. Transfers over £5m 2000-2007 Carl Cort 7 05/07/2000 01/11/1977 22 Craig Bellamy 6 25/06/2001 13/07/1979 21 Laurent Robert 9.5 01/08/2001 21/05/1975 26 Jermaine Jenas 5 04/02/2002 18/02/1983 18 Hugo Viana 8.5 22/06/2002 15/01/1983 19 Titus Bramble 5 12/07/2002 06/09/1981 20 Jonathan Woodgate 9 31/01/2003 22/01/1980 23 Jean-Alain Boumsong 8 01/01/2005 14/12/1979 25 Scott Parker 6.5 15/06/2005 13/10/1980 24 Alberto Luque 9.5 26/08/2005 12/03/1978 27 Michael Owen 16 31/08/2005 14/12/1979 25 Damien Duff 5 22/07/2006 02/03/1979 27 Obafemi Martins 10 24/08/2006 28/10/1984 21 Joey Barton 5.8 14/06/2007 02/09/1982 24 22.93 2007 - Alan Smith 6 03/08/2007 28/10/1980 26 Jose Enrique 6.5 06/08/2007 23/01/1986 21 Jonas Gutierrez 5.2 02/07/2008 05/07/1982 26 Fabricio Coloccini 10 04/08/2008 22/01/1982 26 Francisco Tejada 5.7 31/08/2008 26/06/1986 22 Hatem Ben Arfa 5.75 05/01/2011 07/03/1987 23 Davide Santon 5 30/08/2011 02/01/1991 20 Papiss Demba Cisse 7.5 17/01/2012 03/06/1985 26 Vurnon Anita 6.7 16/08/2012 04/04/1989 23 Mathieu Debuchy 5 04/01/2013 28/07/1985 27 Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa 6.7 22/01/2013 15/05/1989 23 Siem de Jong 6 01/07/2014 28/01/1989 25 Remy Cabella 12 14/07/2014 08/03/1990 24 Emmanuel Riviere 5 16/07/2014 03/03/1990 24 Daryl Janmaat 5 17/07/2014 22/07/1989 25 24.07 You could extent that to 1997 and the likes of Speed, Solano, Given etc. All of whom saw their best days with us. Nixon toes the party line. I like the lad but he's a serial toer of lines.

ie Barkley in 2 years.

Lallana, Barkley.....

Rooney new captain. Right choice.

Gerrard announces his retirement. Fair play. Right time.

It's the bringing his own water that got me. Put a few bottles from the fridge in your training bag you stupid prick. I do it every single day and I'm a far better athlete than Michael fucking Chopra.

I wouldn't quite say that. He's the best in the world at what he does, his role is just a limited one that will often be rendered pretty obsolete at the absolute top level.

Fight for your place at an ambitious CL team and live in Cheshire or go to Sunderland, be starved of service, battle relegation and live (at best) in Darras Hall. Yeah. Tough one.

Rather have Wickham.

Wonder where Carlo will play him. In theory it allows him to play his 4-3-2-1 with Bale and Rodriguez behind Ronaldo in certain games.