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We don't want cheap remember. He's not worth £15M Not good enough. Next. He will be worth £15m. Flakier than a cheap flake in a 99 ice cream being sold by Bob flake in flakesville Tenessee.

We don't want cheap remember. He's not worth £15M Not good enough. Next.

We can get 3 players for the best part of £50m as Souey proved. That was years ago, we were a champions league chasing side, in the UEFA cup. We could then, we can't now. What? We'd finished 14th in the Premiership the season before we signed those players and we weren't in Europe in any form. We're a premiership side, that's enough to attract big players if you're willing to spend the cash. Of course it also doesn't hurt that we've at least been in Europe plenty of times unlike most of the rest of the Premiership.. Teasy - Dont say nowt but Man City who finished 14th last season went out & spent about £40 million on incoming players in the summer & are now sitting in a Champions League spot. How many signings were for Parky's daft figure of £25M? Do you expect them to spend another £65M this window to make it Parky's daft 100M figure? Stop being so literal. Will do, but Parky's set up a thread with a senationalist title and and nonsensical numbers and people have come along and agreed. I'll not take him literally but he needs to put a wink to let me know when. I see no need to change from the amounts we've spent up to now, average about £20M I'd say. In January yes, then another £30m in the summer. On who?

.............. how long before people like you realise that the last board had the right idea after all ....... A few years of bargain buys perhaps Without Bobby Robson begging for the job , Shepherds tenure could have seen the biggest fall from grace since Peter Risdale said "howabout some fish for the reception?" Bullshit He could have became manager of Newcastle anytime from the mid 1960's but wasn't interested while it had shite directors and only became interested when it had ambitious ones. Nowt to do with it. Robson wanted the job when he got it and was openly saying so in the media, if he'd been under contract anywhere else at the time Shepherd would have nothing to brag about from his time at the club. More bullshit. He preferred managing a club like Ipswich to Newcastle [the team he supports] for years. If that doesn't tell you something, you're blind. You could equally say that Martin Edwards would have nothing to brag about if he hadn't appointed Alex Ferguson. What sort of crap is that ? Do you seriously think every chairman appoints a manager by some sort of default ? haha, thats funny. The lengths some people will go to to avoid giving any credit for anything, never ceases to amaze me. Plenty of other chairman could have appointed Bobby Robson, including Newcastle while he was manager of Ipswich, as I said. Please explain why they didn't ? I've never said ANYTHING about Robson and his view of the job prior to the time he wanted it and got it. Thing is, Edwards appointed him and stuck with him all the way. I give him all credit for that, Same with John Hall, did well him. I'd give Shepherd credit for Robson too, if his other 5 managerial appointments hadn't been unmitigated disasters despite all the money he threw at them. As they say, a stopped clock is right twice a day, which is a better ratio than you I don't consider two FA Cup Finals to be "unmitigated disasters", 90 clubs would have swapped positions for us on those days, nor a 7th position in the league. BTW, this has been said before, but Sir John Hall wasn't responsible for appointing Keegan, that was down to Hall Jnr, Fletcher and Shepherd, those 3 exercised the judgement, and he got lucky. Don't suppose you will take any notice of this though, as it doesn't suit your "opinion". I'd say they were in terms of building on existing success. Went backwards with each of those 5, and you must agree, since none of your highlights from the time has us as the fifth best team in the country, which was delivered otherwise, right?

.............. how long before people like you realise that the last board had the right idea after all ....... A few years of bargain buys perhaps Without Bobby Robson begging for the job , Shepherds tenure could have seen the biggest fall from grace since Peter Risdale said "howabout some fish for the reception?" Bullshit He could have became manager of Newcastle anytime from the mid 1960's but wasn't interested while it had shite directors and only became interested when it had ambitious ones. Nowt to do with it. Robson wanted the job when he got it and was openly saying so in the media, if he'd been under contract anywhere else at the time Shepherd would have nothing to brag about from his time at the club. More bullshit. He preferred managing a club like Ipswich to Newcastle [the team he supports] for years. If that doesn't tell you something, you're blind. You could equally say that Martin Edwards would have nothing to brag about if he hadn't appointed Alex Ferguson. What sort of crap is that ? Do you seriously think every chairman appoints a manager by some sort of default ? haha, thats funny. The lengths some people will go to to avoid giving any credit for anything, never ceases to amaze me. Plenty of other chairman could have appointed Bobby Robson, including Newcastle while he was manager of Ipswich, as I said. Please explain why they didn't ? I've never said ANYTHING about Robson and his view of the job prior to the time he wanted it and got it. Thing is, Edwards appointed him and stuck with him all the way. I give him all credit for that, Same with John Hall, did well him. I'd give Shepherd credit for Robson too, if his other 5 managerial appointments hadn't been unmitigated disasters despite all the money he threw at them. As they say, a stopped clock is right twice a day, which is a better ratio than you

.............. how long before people like you realise that the last board had the right idea after all ....... A few years of bargain buys perhaps Without Bobby Robson begging for the job , Shepherds tenure could have seen the biggest fall from grace since Peter Risdale said "howabout some fish for the reception?" Bullshit He could have became manager of Newcastle anytime from the mid 1960's but wasn't interested while it had shite directors and only became interested when it had ambitious ones. Nowt to do with it. Robson wanted the job when he got it and was openly saying so in the media, if he'd been under contract anywhere else at the time Shepherd would have nothing to brag about from his time at the club.

Type the following into Google: Allardyce Kadar not on my radar Reet. Well Tozers in and the climb towards Europe starts with him. blueyes.gif

We can get 3 players for the best part of £50m as Souey proved. That was years ago, we were a champions league chasing side, in the UEFA cup. We could then, we can't now. we finished lower the season just before owen and luque signed than we did last season, champion's league chasing my arse. oh and we werent in the uefa the season luque and owen joined either. Aye, a poor season after Robson did so brilliantly, so that's when we really had to be blinded by the cash being flashed so Freddy had to suck Owens cock for him to come (even though he was a crock no-one wanted). Luque was one of the bung deals, must have been, because he was vastly overpriced, are you saying you want more of those 2 types of signing. How childish. Quite a lot of people were pretty happy when we signed Luque........in fact, one of the longest threads ever was put together by people saying we should give him a run even though it was patently obvious after his first game that he would never be fit to lace Craig Bellamys boots Childish how? I hardly watch any football outside of NUFC so I only really judge a transfers success on how the player performs for us. oh well, I've highlighted it for you as you don't seem able to see it Ah right. It's just a comic convention to exagerate a persons actions to highlight their perspective in a situation. Crack a smile man. I don't think Owen had his cock sucked at any of those meetings (though I don't think we can ever really be sure), but he certainly wasn't keen was he? He just had no other option but to sit in the Madrid reserves.

I think 2 of them flew in & are never to be seen again. .com say Davids went, but says nowt about Kadar.

Silvestre - Was never going to join a club where Barton was, as Dabo is good friend. Distin - Never going to come back & maybe a touch of Barton factor?!?! Who were the others, I cant remember? Ben Haim, Bridge? Well Ben Haim went for the £££'s. Didnt know about Bridge. I am disappointed Sam didn't have new signings lined up for 01/01/08 & was expecting new first team players to join us when the Afro 4 went. Tamas Kadar, Ben Tozer.... They're flying in man.

We can get 3 players for the best part of £50m as Souey proved. That was years ago, we were a champions league chasing side, in the UEFA cup. We could then, we can't now. we finished lower the season just before owen and luque signed than we did last season, champion's league chasing my arse. oh and we werent in the uefa the season luque and owen joined either. Aye, a poor season after Robson did so brilliantly, so that's when we really had to be blinded by the cash being flashed so Freddy had to suck Owens cock for him to come (even though he was a crock no-one wanted). Luque was one of the bung deals, must have been, because he was vastly overpriced, are you saying you want more of those 2 types of signing. How childish. Quite a lot of people were pretty happy when we signed Luque........in fact, one of the longest threads ever was put together by people saying we should give him a run even though it was patently obvious after his first game that he would never be fit to lace Craig Bellamys boots Childish how? I hardly watch any football outside of NUFC so I only really judge a transfers success on how the player performs for us.

Silvestre - Was never going to join a club where Barton was, as Dabo is good friend. Distin - Never going to come back & maybe a touch of Barton factor?!?! Who were the others, I cant remember? Ben Haim, Bridge?

.............. how long before people like you realise that the last board had the right idea after all ....... A few years of bargain buys perhaps Without Bobby Robson begging for the job, Shepherds tenure could have seen the biggest fall from grace since Peter Risdale said "howabout some fish for the reception?"

On page 1 I said to Parky "Obviously gutted about not winning best WUM 2007", the lad is after the 2008 crown. blueyes.gif He's like me. I once convinced a mate that cat's lay eggs, and a bloke in the pub that Gullit did as good a job as Robson. The number of people that'll agree with him so readily is frightening though. It's too easy on here.

Go back & check page 1 for my views on what Parky was saying. I just think your being silly saying The bit in bold in black in particular, of couse players will come most go where the £££'s are. Glad we're in agreement on the true WUM king. I think we're less able to sign ANY player another club is interested in than we were when Souness arrived. I think this is evident in Allardyce's exasperration at being unable to pick up any of his original targets, none of which were trophy signings at all. No need to tell those you managed to get that like.

We can get 3 players for the best part of £50m as Souey proved. That was years ago, we were a champions league chasing side, in the UEFA cup. We could then, we can't now. What? We'd finished 14th in the Premiership the season before we signed those players and we weren't in Europe in any form. We're a premiership side, that's enough to attract big players if you're willing to spend the cash. Of course it also doesn't hurt that we've at least been in Europe plenty of times unlike most of the rest of the Premiership.. Teasy - Dont say nowt but Man City who finished 14th last season went out & spent about £40 million on incoming players in the summer & are now sitting in a Champions League spot. How many signings were for Parky's daft figure of £25M? Do you expect them to spend another £65M this window to make it Parky's daft 100M figure? Stop being so literal. Will do, but Parky's set up a thread with a senationalist title and and nonsensical numbers and people have come along and agreed. I'll not take him literally but he needs to put a wink to let me know when. I see no need to change from the amounts we've spent up to now, average about £20M I'd say.

We can get 3 players for the best part of £50m as Souey proved. That was years ago, we were a champions league chasing side, in the UEFA cup. We could then, we can't now. What? We'd finished 14th in the Premiership the season before we signed those players and we weren't in Europe in any form. We're a premiership side, that's enough to attract big players if you're willing to spend the cash. Of course it also doesn't hurt that we've at least been in Europe plenty of times unlike most of the rest of the Premiership.. Teasy - Dont say nowt but Man City who finished 14th last season went out & spent about £40 million on incoming players in the summer & are now sitting in a Champions League spot. How many signings were for Parky's daft figure of £25M? Do you expect them to spend another £65M this window to make it Parky's daft 100M figure?

Champions league regular and valuable cog in the machine Wes Brown or bit part defender and headless chicken Steven Taylor? You reckon Man U would let us talk to Brown if we offered Taylor for a swap deal?

We can get 3 players for the best part of £50m as Souey proved. That was years ago, we were a champions league chasing side, in the UEFA cup. We could then, we can't now. What? We'd finished 14th in the Premiership the season before we signed those players and we weren't in Europe in any form. You talk so much shit man, every time I read one of your posts. We're a premiership side, that's enough to attract big players if you're willing to spend the cash (of course it also doesn't hurt that we've at least been in Europe plenty of times unlike most of the rest of the Premiership). Teasy man, the threads over, Parky has admitted defeat and run off with his tail between his legs. Like I said to pd, that 14th place was a disappointment... Different story now. We can't convince anyone the last 4 years have been a blip, that we're a team that will regularly be in Europe. We can compete with the 'other 16' for players (though most would probably prefer Man City or Everton over us too), but the other 16 rarely spend more than £10M on a player, and NEVER £25M.

Was totally serious. A lot of the tactical chatter on here straight after a game baffles me. I have 6 pints before and after and I'm lucky if I can remember the scorers the next morning (the way football is meant to be watched ). Seems reasonable enough like, but I'd say all the players we have have shown they have some of those qualities in the past. Injury or age might have robbed a few of them, but can't see any reason they collectively couldn't be organised to start utilising their talent as much as they have before.

Considering three of those were brought in by Allardyce (and they weren't exactly cheap), do you think trusting him with more money will see him change targets to something more exotic? General question, not really owt to do with the thread as such. I know you've advocated giving him time. Would of been my secondpoint to Chez! Dave, i'm not sure, thats the biggest question facing the club (as i said after City ). Fruitbat, my point was that the midfielders we have dont have the attributes to match the attributes of our strikers. Both departments are lacking and neither can make up for the inadequacies of the other. So, yes, i think the players are just about playing to their potential which is why we arent any higher up the league. Blame last summer if you want. I tend not to over analyse things so forgive me for not understanding this, but why exactly do we have the wrong kind of strikers for our midfield? We've got tall ones, short one's, fat one's, skinny one's, strong one's and weak one's. Is it the midfield that's wrong? What attributes do the midfield lack when playing at potential. Duff in Blackburn form is an excellent provider and occasssional scorer. As are Milner, Smith and Zoggy on Villa, Leeds and previous form. Butt, Geremi, and Faye are solid as a rock on Man U, Chelsea and current form, while Barton always looked a classy* box to box player at Man City. Sounds like British Rail excuse like the wrong kind of snow on the track. *EDIT: Of course by classy I mean in a working class scumbag, thugish charver, blood and guts way.

It's ridiculous that we had only 3 games in October and 3 in November then 7 in December. Don't need a break, just a better spread of midweek games. Clubs in Europe are good enough to deal with the congestion caused by the inevitable reorganised games, but too powerful to let it happen.

We can get 3 players for the best part of £50m as Souey proved. That was years ago, we were a champions league chasing side, in the UEFA cup. We could then, we can't now. we finished lower the season just before owen and luque signed than we did last season, champion's league chasing my arse. oh and we werent in the uefa the season luque and owen joined either. Aye, a poor season after Robson did so brilliantly, so that's when we really had to be blinded by the cash being flashed so Freddy had to suck Owens cock for him to come (even though he was a crock no-one wanted). Luque was one of the bung deals, must have been, because he was vastly overpriced, are you saying you want more of those 2 types of signing. just because a club is spending money doesnt mean the transfers have to be shit, as souness's were, i said they were done without sense earlier in the thread. the club needs to take more care of how it spends money, better scouting specifically, but it has to be spent all the same if we want to move forward substantially. not sure allardyce is the man i'd trust in the event of us having a lot of money, mind. Spot on. but there's only about 15 transfers ever that have been as big as £25M. Not one of those players would have considered Newcastle. I'm happy to give Allardyce a few quid to bring in quality. but the £100m total and £15m+ criteria Parky is suggesting is mental. He knows it but he's just having a great laugh at all the tits agreeing with him. See where he says something like "where will they all fit?" that's how you know, because when all the non-european clubs spend daft money on ever shitter players and they can't all break into the top 4, he knows they end up like Leeds. well i agree but dont think the 25m+ or 100m figures are entirely serious as you say. but i think we're in a pretty good position to spend some substantial bucks, reduced debt, more tv money, stadium mostly full, billionaire owner the reasons. there's some issues that might derail that, chairman who looks a bit too conservative, manager who might not be the best spotter of talent or handler of money, lack of established scouting network, not having the training or support (or manager?) to get best out of players once they arrive at the club. for these reasons i dont expect us to spend big in this window and would generally support that but i hope in the summer we're ready to compete. Take a look who spent more than us in 07-08. Tottenham Sunderland Birmingham Derby Fulham They're hardly a convincing argument for boom rather than bust. Slow and steady wins the race. Err...YOu've missed out Liverpool, ManU, Pompey and Man C. But they don't disprove your theory like the teams I have listed, so why would I bother. A similar argument would be look at all these men going around breathing, you must breathe if you want to survive so you've got to be a man. Well women breathe and do ok! Ssshhh, quiet about the women and the breathing and the living, they don't suit my flawed argument. You're rambling now mate. ...and you're wilting

We can get 3 players for the best part of £50m as Souey proved. That was years ago, we were a champions league chasing side, in the UEFA cup. We could then, we can't now. we finished lower the season just before owen and luque signed than we did last season, champion's league chasing my arse. oh and we werent in the uefa the season luque and owen joined either. Aye, a poor season after Robson did so brilliantly, so that's when we really had to be blinded by the cash being flashed so Freddy had to suck Owens cock for him to come (even though he was a crock no-one wanted). Luque was one of the bung deals, must have been, because he was vastly overpriced, are you saying you want more of those 2 types of signing. just because a club is spending money doesnt mean the transfers have to be shit, as souness's were, i said they were done without sense earlier in the thread. the club needs to take more care of how it spends money, better scouting specifically, but it has to be spent all the same if we want to move forward substantially. not sure allardyce is the man i'd trust in the event of us having a lot of money, mind. Spot on. but there's only about 15 transfers ever that have been as big as £25M. Not one of those players would have considered Newcastle. I'm happy to give Allardyce a few quid to bring in quality. but the £100m total and £15m+ criteria Parky is suggesting is mental. He knows it but he's just having a great laugh at all the tits agreeing with him. See where he says something like "where will they all fit?" that's how you know, because when all the non-european clubs spend daft money on ever shitter players and they can't all break into the top 4, he knows they end up like Leeds. well i agree but dont think the 25m+ or 100m figures are entirely serious as you say. but i think we're in a pretty good position to spend some substantial bucks, reduced debt, more tv money, stadium mostly full, billionaire owner the reasons. there's some issues that might derail that, chairman who looks a bit too conservative, manager who might not be the best spotter of talent or handler of money, lack of established scouting network, not having the training or support (or manager?) to get best out of players once they arrive at the club. for these reasons i dont expect us to spend big in this window and would generally support that but i hope in the summer we're ready to compete. Take a look who spent more than us in 07-08. Tottenham Sunderland Birmingham Derby Fulham They're hardly a convincing argument for boom rather than bust. Slow and steady wins the race. Err...YOu've missed out Liverpool, ManU, Pompey and Man C. But they don't disprove your theory like the teams I have listed, so why would I bother. A similar argument would be look at all these men going around breathing, and saying "you must breathe if you want to survive so you've got to be a man." "Well women breathe and do ok!" "Ssshhh, quiet about the women and the breathing and the living, they don't suit my flawed argument."

It's roughly what we need to spend. I wouldn't whine if we spent £70m net over the next couple of windows of course as that would be enough to set us on the way. Is it there? Ashley and Mort are winners and I'm sure they want to compete and MA has made noises about wanting to compete when he took over. The Allardyce part I'd rather refrain from commenting on at this point mate. blueyes.gif That's the crux of it for me. If the money's there, why isn't it being spent? The first thing alex said after City was that it was time to back him or sack him and he was/is spot on. Either give him the cash and cross your fingers or get shot and back the new guy to the hilt. The talent is out there and the likes of Elano are willing to go and play in the fucking Ukraine - they'd come here without a shadow of a doubt. Elano was £8m (and Allardyce said no to him didn't he). Not good/expensive enough for Parky.