Chris_R

Bruce can't win me over with results because I hope we lose every match. Whole thing needs to burn down so Ashley leaves. Last thing I want is Bruce to keep us clear of relegation.

Here man, just f*** off will you. One of the worst posters this place has seen and given their was a Nazi lad back in day it’s a congested field. Absolute f***ing bellend. Hughton still has fans though. Not think it would be a smart PR move by Mike Ashley? I’m a Hughton fan. Why are you maligning the good man’s name? As I said it would be a good PR move too. It's irrelevant as to whether it would be a good PR move. The important point is that Hughton has actually met Mike Ashley before and has more than a shred of self respect, dignity and credibility so would come nowhere near the job even if it were offered to him on a silver plate.

Unlike Allardyce, Hughton strikes me as having at least an ounce of credibility and self-respect so I can't see that getting off the ground.

Luke, I'll also judge Bruce's tenure on his results. The point is I'm not interested in being an active participant in his tenure. Instead of judging Bruce's tenure preemptively, which I don't think anyone is doing, I'll judge the appointment itself now. And it reeks of him being a patsy, a flunky, and is indicative of our utter and chronic lack of any ambition whatsoever. I'm perfectly able, entitled, and prepared to do that 'judging' immediately and I'll meet his appointment with vehement anger, disappointment, and a renewed determination to do whatever little I can to expedite Ashley's exit from my club. Cunt.

They didn't. It's well known that Rafa approached them. They just said "Yes" when we were staring relegation down the barrel and he offered his services.

We're not even mediocre. We only have aspirations of mediocrity. Whole club is a joke. Bring on the Bruce, let the inevitable commence.

It's giving me hope that the whole thing crashes and burns. Worst we could do is appoint someone like Allardyce who, however toxic a human and however terrible the football, would have an actual chance of keeping us up so this shitshow rolls on another year. It has to go one way or the other for me, either a takeover or a total implosion.

No, not a chance. But Ashley probably does, that's the issue. Until we actually finished 10th in the Championship, he'd still think all is fine and we'd bounce right back. He's certainly not going to be shitting himself over that near-certain future now, before a ball is kicked in the PL in which we've finished mid-table for the last 2 seasons. Yep, that’s what I think as well, so it’s a win win to me. Either the fat cunt sell us now or one year after relegation. The only scenario that he won’t sell us is he has funds to invest now and prevent relegation. We are lucky that he is in trouble now and couldn’t do so. He doesn’t have time anyway. That’s why back to my original argument, I believe the statement is true that the stumbling block is not the fat cunt. Someone is blocking his last lifeline. It’s fine if that’s not the case to me anyway. No takeover, relegation, no promotion, takeover. I would also take this. Oh, I'll take any "out" at this stage. Ashley's removal is everything, and there's no set of circumstances regarding the club which I'd not accept in order to see it happen. Everything can be rebuilt given time. We've had 12 years of ambitionless purgatory and we'll at least have another 12 years of the same if we don't do something. Owning this club has to become toxic to him, a millstone around his neck in terms of the finances, his brand and his own happiness.

No, not a chance. But Ashley probably does, that's the issue. Until we actually finished 10th in the Championship, he'd still think all is fine and we'd bounce right back. He's certainly not going to be shitting himself over that near-certain future now, before a ball is kicked in the PL in which we've finished mid-table for the last 2 seasons.

Let him sell them. He loses even more money once we go down. This. Newcastle getting relegated won't cost me a single penny. If he wants to smash his own toys up out of spite, let him.

You'd expect he would, he's had plenty of practice from the last few times he's done it.

"Keith, Season ticket sales are massively down! And to top it all, Alaves have backed out of the Joselu deal after actually watching him play" "Leak to the press that Mourinho's coming and might want to keep him"

Yeah, I don't struggle to believe that 1/3 have cancelled, instead I struggle to believe that 2/3 are still thinking of going. Just baffles me that tens of thousands still think it's sensible to spend £600 and rock up every week to watch this shitshow. I would say a fair percentage of those that have signed up have done it in the hope that a takeover goes through and they don't lose their seats. know of several. They're either idiots or liars, then. Or both. I don't doubt that people of that mindset exist, but for it to be 2/3s of our fanbase seems disappointing.

Yeah, I don't struggle to believe that 1/3 have cancelled, instead I struggle to believe that 2/3 are still thinking of going. Just baffles me that tens of thousands still think it's sensible to spend £600 and rock up every week to watch this shitshow.

I think that's probably just something that's impossible to price with any accuracy. Most things you can give a stab at, but that's just impossible and also so open to abuse by anyone genuinely ITK. Just not worth Sky bothering, frankly.

Got excited. Looked at his Twitter. Thump. Back to earth That Geordie Boot Boy/Burnsie bloke that everyone seems to hate said that he trusted this bloke and that he's never let him down before or something. So it's definitely 100% bollocks. Got a link? #clutching He appears to have deleted it, but he's posted this: https://twitter.com/BootGeordie/status/1147946249674461184?s=19 I reckon it's NUFC putting this out, desperate to get people to buy season tickets. "We're being taken over. HONEST." Not a penny to the cunts until the papers are actually signed.

Nearly did exactly that myself.

He then says "If turning up to match days was going to have an impact then it would be worth it. But not getting 600 quid of Steve from walker ain’t gunna hurt Ashley" That's true. But 10,000 Steves from Walker is £6m quid each year. Plus other matchday revenue, and day sales dropping as they will too. That WILL hurt Ashley and he will care.

No.

I would rather it were heading for a mountain.

Advertising generally has a positive impact on share prices. It's very likely (though utterly impossible to prove without my aforementioned time machine and access to a parallel universe where different events played out) that the share price would have dropped by more than it has if he hadn't had all the free advertising round the ground / world.

Will be interesting when that number eventually emerges and whether they really are paying or if that was just another lie to placate the fans' forum. Very true mind I have no doubt the full amount won't be shown. Don't think it's anywhere near the amount our support think it is either, if it was on the shirts also then I would say yes but for stadium advertisement, then I don't think it's anywhere near the 100 million (overall) plus some think it is. 12 years at 8m a year in lost revenue. It's hardly inconceivable that the total is around £100m. It'll certainly be close. Show me where it is 8m then? Advertisement of shirt sales will be a lot more than stadium advertisement. Someone else came up with that number after looking into how much this is likely to cost. I can't remember where I saw it, but I remember the number and that they'd backed it up with what looked like reasonable enough calculations. If you have different numbers though, let's see them.

Will be interesting when that number eventually emerges and whether they really are paying or if that was just another lie to placate the fans' forum. Very true mind I have no doubt the full amount won't be shown. Don't think it's anywhere near the amount our support think it is either, if it was on the shirts also then I would say yes but for stadium advertisement, then I don't think it's anywhere near the 100 million (overall) plus some think it is. 12 years at 8m a year in lost revenue. It's hardly inconceivable that the total is around £100m. It'll certainly be close.

You've got that the wrong way round. SD is bigger and more profitable than NUFC and SD doesn't have anything akin to relegation threatening to slash its revenues in the space of a couple of months. To put the supposed asking price of £350m into context, that's roughly the operating cashflow of SD over the last 12 months. SD has had £100m worth of free advertising from us, that's got to have affected where the value of the company is at and shows the value of NUFC to SD. Also, I was talking more about all his other businesses than SD, the ones which are loss-making. SD is his baby, I know he sold shares in it years back to raise money, but that's the heart and soul of his empire. It'll be the last thing he permanently gets rid of. The advertising isn't having an impact on SD though if you have a look at the share price over the last few years (and this when the Premier League stock has increased ten-fold), yes he wasn't paying but I put money on it's nowhere near the cost of £100 million mind (we will know next accounts exactly how much as according to the forum minutes he is now paying). By the accounts he has only made £27 million before tax during his tenure of the club also. He has also had to put money into the club on two occasions due to relegation also for the daily operations. Regarding the bold bit, how do you know what the SD share price would be without the free advertising? Maybe it would be the same, maybe higher, maybe lower. Maybe the business would have collapsed and folded. Without a time machine and access to an alternative reality timeline, we simply can't know. However it's inconceivable that the decade plus of free worldwide exposure has been of no value to them as a company. As for whatever NUFC do or do not make, that's irrelevant as he strips all our asset streams out and diverts them elsewhere. The advertising as mentioned. The club shop is just a SD shop with a different badge on now, etc. He loses NUFC, he will doubtless have to surrender all that too. NUFC has enormous value to him for that reason.