Chris_R

can't understand anyone wanting us to lose. boycott yes but still support the team. Because for alot of us, it isn't our team anymore. And us losing, and therefore getting relegated, will get us a step closer to getting our team back if we believe that depriving Ashley of funds will drive him out of the club.

Utter guff. Nobody has to shop at SD. Nobody has no other choices. Anybody can avoid shopping there if they so wish. yes they can, but if they're not interested in nufc, why should they? Indeed. But I can and will criticise their lifestyle choices. Doesn't matter how dirt poor I am - and I've been dirt poor - I'd not let me or my kids dress like utter scranners. There's other options for the same price than cladding yourself from head to toe in Lonsdale ffs.

Utter guff. Nobody has to shop at SD. Nobody has no other choices. Anybody can avoid shopping there if they so wish.

I don't think anyone can even be bothered to do that anymore.

its the working classes, people with little money and kids to clothe etc. not everyone can afford to shop at JD. they're hardly going to boycott SD because Ashley's fucked our club. and I dont think we should criticise them because of it. That's nonsense, there's a load of cheap clothes shops people can go to. Plus why does anyone have to clothe their kids in Donnay or Lonsdale from head to foot? Surely even things like Asda's George range is just as cheap and doesn't make you look like complete chav scum. Or Primark. Or anywhere. There's maybe a want or a desire to shop in SD from some people, clearly, as they have massive revenues. But there's not a need. It's still a choice which can be avoided by literally anyone.

I think this too, and it's an important point. The overwhelming majority of those who have packed it in this year won't be back next year if things are the same, yet more will reach their tipping point and join them. Eventually it'll be an empty, soulless ground with just a few happy-clapper morons. It'll take time, but it'll happen. We just need to keep plugging away at people.

No massive objections to fan attending away games, the club doesn't get a penny from that. I'd say it's fairly pointless in that you're cheering for a non-entity in sporting terms and one that personally I hope gets beaten every week but I can't bring myself to have the same level of derision for them as I hold for ST holders or day trippers.

I'm normally happier at parties than at work. Guess where I'm more productive though?

Here we go again with the mythical "pay as you play deal" - has anyone got any credible source that shows such a deal has ever existed? Paul McGrath for Villa?

Free transfer.

Just kill me now.

What exactly is exciting about "profits down by 6%"

This is glorious. Doubtless he'll weedle his way out of it but right now I'm sat here nursing a semi.

Fill it full of liquid chocolate. Though having seen the price of Belgian chocolate, that'll probably cost about €674m.

Also if this tax bill allegedly only arrived yesterday, then surely it doesn't matter for these accounts? Surely that goes on next year's and they've got 12 months to have a think about it? I mean aside from anything else like the sheer logic that there's a cutoff point and it isn't the day of release because that'd be mental, the accounts were supposed to be released a while ago and were delayed anyway. They can't have delayed them a week ago because someone gave them a tax bill yesterday.

Oh my god, €674m tax bill?

Of course if fucking is, you thieving cunt.

He enjoys shafting us. He's already doing what he enjoys. It's the only explanation.

Can't understand anyone watching those kind of videos. You realise they likely get ad revenue based on views? You're literally paying them when you click this shit. Stop it.

Because he'll possibly regress under Bruce and look shit. Many players will be at their maximin value right now.

How old are you and are you disabled? Well the bit between his ears isn't working.

I'd be furious, if only I gave a shit.

"greatest spending spree in the club’s history" Give over. That's like me saying I've had the greatest outbreak of charity in my life because I put 50p in a collection box*. You've got to compare it to most people's benchmarks if your own is so abhorrently low. (*That's a joke, obviously. I'd never put 50p in a collection box)

You're missing my point. I'm saying that coming from a scientific background, my default standpoint when confronted with new information is to think I might NOT be correct. To question my own thoughts, and the new information, and to see which holds most weight. I'm always 100% happy to be wrong and to change my views accordingly if shown something which I find outweighs my existing world view. The frustrating thing is when other people do the opposite and won't even accept that another point of view could possibly carry any weight whatsoever. It's why the whole world is in a f***ing mess at the moment with Trump, Brexit, climate change deniers, and indeed radicals of any kind on any part of a political or religious spectrum. If we all critically evaluated information put in front of us and were more flexible in our outlooks, the world would be an infinitely better place. So I'm about as far as anyone ever could be from saying that I think that because of my background I'm always right. Anyway. Yes, we've had individual years in which Ashley made a loss. You say you don't think that means Ashley will be more likely to sell. Do you remember when we were relegated to the Championship and he dropped the club's asking price? Because that's what happened very publicly in 2009. What you're suggesting won't happen has already happened in the past, under Mike Ashley, under the situation you describe. The problem is we went straight back up again so he got the TV money back. If we go down and stay down, history suggests he'll sell and sell cheap. Did he drop his asking price though? And if he did, he still didn't sell the club Yes. He reduced the asking price to £80m if Moat would pay up front. As for him not selling, no he didn't. No doubt most of that was on Moat, who nobody thinks was serious now. But he DID reduce his asking price on something he'd paid over £130m for just a couple of years previously because, as he said to lots of Newcastle staff and as reported by Paul Ferris in his book.... So he absolutely can and will want to sell if we're causing him trouble. He absolutely WILL take a loss. He will not sit here and lose money hand over foot, year on year, and just tack that all onto the asking price because that has never been the way to sell a business that's making a loss at any point in history, ever. What won't get him out is if we're making him a profit every year, and as already demonstrated with numbers, season ticket revenues are the difference between profit and loss. It is demonstrably the difference between him staying and going. You stated earlier that if you thought boycotting would make Ashley leave you'd cancel your ticket immediately. Well the number for the box office is 0344 372 1892 or you can email them at boxofficeNUFC[/member].co.uk

You're missing my point. I'm saying that coming from a scientific background, my default standpoint when confronted with new information is to think I might NOT be correct. To question my own thoughts, and the new information, and to see which holds most weight. I'm always 100% happy to be wrong and to change my views accordingly if shown something which I find outweighs my existing world view. The frustrating thing is when other people do the opposite and won't even accept that another point of view could possibly carry any weight whatsoever. It's why the whole world is in a fucking mess at the moment with Trump, Brexit, climate change deniers, and indeed radicals of any kind on any part of a political or religious spectrum. If we all critically evaluated information put in front of us and were more flexible in our outlooks, the world would be an infinitely better place. So I'm about as far as anyone ever could be from saying that I think that because of my background I'm always right. Anyway. Yes, we've had individual years in which Ashley made a loss. You say you don't think that means Ashley will be more likely to sell. Do you remember when we were relegated to the Championship and he dropped the club's asking price? Because that's what happened very publicly in 2009. What you're suggesting won't happen has already happened in the past, under Mike Ashley, under the situation you describe. The problem is we went straight back up again so he got the TV money back. If we go down and stay down, history suggests he'll sell and sell cheap.