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Obviously the OM will want to accept a straight cash bid and sell him to Bremen, but he doesn't strike me as the kind of lad who'll go anywhere he doesn't fancy. It might be physically impossible to get him to write his name on the contract!

I agree, i still think we will stay up.....i have to think that or i would just be some daft t*** sitting in a crowd for no reason but its not panic to see and discuss the situation as it stands imo A lot of people just assume that anyone with a different opinion is an idiot. That's a problem for most on here, including myself at times... Obviously for some more than others though. Eh? Think he was agreeing with you.

But oldtype, that's basically what football is like for 99% of clubs. We support them because we pretty much have to. I want us to progress, but we have to face that it will have to happen slowly. We've gone from Champions League to bottom half relatively quickly, it can be turned around as well.

I am as well, I'm definitely more optimistic after the game than before it. Strange for a 3-0 defeat obviously.

People think we're going to survive > patronising claims about forgiving Ashley and having their heads in the clouds. It's pointless to make meta posts like this, it works bother ways... it's all about opinions.

We should get rid of that jean luc smilie, it's ridiculous.

And the last thing Wenger needs is another creative midfielder.

Yes and no imo. We look a bit more settled in defence, we look to have a decent pair of wingers this time around, and Carroll may be able to get 10+ goals this year if we're lucky. However, Harper looks too easy to beat, we have a clear problem with the right back slot, our midfielders are all very slow, lacking in creativity, and none of them are good at protecting the back defense, and aside from Carroll, we're probably going to be hopeless in attack. Furthermore, if we get a couple of injuries to the likes of Jonas/Enrique/Carroll, we're probably fucked. True, but we had all of the those problems last time around. I'm not saying we're brilliant, I'm just saying we're better than before. Bearing in mind that if we had managed to pick up a single point more over 38 games, we would have survived last time anyway. It could go wrong, but it could easily go fine.

That's quite a swing in opinions, based on not very much at all. how? i see nothing that suggest's he is backing the team and manager as things stand But how has that changed since January? Jan = Mike is alreet, he's trying to invest. August = Mike is a cunt, he's taking the piss.

Have you not just imagined that? We don't really know what the asking price is, what we have offered or what Ashley has done or not done. We always knew our transfer budget was tiny, to even be linked with a £5m player was a major surprise. We probably always wanted him on loan only.

That's quite a swing in opinions, based on not very much at all.

City are losers in this anyway, they should have just played him... he's a very good player in the Prem still.

FFS, can we stop talking about relegation one game into a brand new season? It's depressing as fuck.

That always got me So it's terrible and unforgivable when we have no fight and no team spirit, but when we do have some it doesn't make any difference? That's weird. It's nice to have fight and team spirit, but it doesn't act as a substitute for quality. I agree to a certain extent, obviously it's better to have better players. But look at what teams like Stoke and Birmingham have done through organisation and hard work.

That always got me So it's terrible and unforgivable when we have no fight and no team spirit, but when we do have some it doesn't make any difference? That's weird.

We were always very unlikely to get Ben Arfa, surely we all knew that?

TBH, we could easily have ended up with a 3-1 or 4-2 result against Man Utd, and we could end up with another couple of good players by the end of the window. I'm not saying we're great, but it seems the mood has gone sour pretty quickly because of the (apparent) failure to sign Ben Arfa when we were all excited about it.

Also, gambling by spending costs money, gambling by not spending costs nothing.

He's class, if available we should be looking. I doubt he'll leave Man Utd on loan though, he was breaking through a bit towards the end of the season. Is he really that good ?? I know a few Manure fans and they all reckon that apart from having a cracking shot on him he's got very little else. That said that's still more than what Smith has in his locker! Talking of Stoke rumours going round that we're after Fuller I've been very impressed whenever I've seen him. He seems strong and mobile enough, good range of passing as well. Obviously I'd have to defer to Man Utd fans like, I've haven't seen him that often. Fuller tore us to shreds last time didn't he, that was embarrassing.

we may have a better team, but the team that went down had far more quality On paper yes, but they never performed or tried, did they? IMO we're better equipped to stay up than last time.

We're still a significantly better side than we were when we went down, and even then we only got relegated by a point.

Then go and get yourself a fucking car! I've got a car!

He's class, if available we should be looking. I doubt he'll leave Man Utd on loan though, he was breaking through a bit towards the end of the season.

If we were signing the players Blackpool are signing we would be giving the club dog's abuse.

Would have fancied Stephen Ireland. I would honestly be tempted to just play Vuckic from now on... he must offer more than Nolan.