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Those two positions aren't contradictory though.

why is it thst under the curren regime we aere waiting until the end of the transfer window, as in the previous regime most transfers were done by july Well that's a different point to the one I was discussing. I don't know, obviously we aren't getting deals done when we would like...no idea what the reason is.

It's pointless me arguing this really, my point was that we should just wait to see how we do in this transfer window before we judge how we've done in this transfer window. If you want to have an argument on hypothetical outcomes, that's fair enough. I could equally have an argument based on the hypothetical situation that the Ben Arfa deal goes through, along with another one or two.

Why do only end of window signings count though, that's just timing. Don't think it really means anything when in the window the deals happen. I was only talking about whether Ashley would be more or less bad than before, I think it's fair to say something should have to happen before we judge that.

In his defence he has previously had some reason to be slightly annoyed, as he's always been the best keeper at the club. But in this case he hasn't got a leg to stand on, as he signed for Man City when he was always likely to be competing with world-class players. He's luckily they didn't sign Casillas or someone like that TBH.

Keane's a perfectionist to an extreme degree, and sadly managers are never working in perfect circumstances.

Doesn't somebody say this every window? Yes, because it's completely correct... wise in fact.

1998 called, they want their transfer suggestion back.

All this chat about how shit Ashley is is getting a bit tiring... it's happening simultaneously in about 4 or 5 threads. Let's just wait until the transfer window closes and/or we've actually played some games before we have a debate about whether he's more or less shit than he was a month ago.

If that was the case then we would be making a mistake to let him go, but nobody really has a clue if it is.

This And if we get relegated, then it'll be harder than last time to come straight back up Fair enough, the comparison wasn't great... but buying players isn't exactly like buying lightbulbs either! I want us to sign players as much as anyone, all I'm saying is that we know what the owner's policy is. We've all got opinions on whether it's right or wrong and to what degree - but it is what it is.

The club will never be self sufficient as a yo-yo club. It was self sufficient through the 90s with less transfer fees and far higher ground income (albeit lower wages too) when we were spending money to compete with the big boys. I appreciate things have changed re: Man City, Chelsea etc but the club no longer being able to compete with Everton, Spurs right down to Stoke City and Bolton? Nah sorry, not buying it. I agree, the question is whether we can get away with the strategy I suppose.

The new title is the most accurate yet, it's calmed me down a lot.

I hope you're joking nar... my mate said he had signed and was number 24, so i ordered the new blue top off sports direct website with his name on. he said he'd read the deal on some newcastle website You sir, are an idiot. Oh by the way, if you send me £100 I'll make sure he signs. i know i feel so stupid, i bet he takes number 22. This could be some of the best comedy ever. aye go on, laugh at my misfortune! nearly as bad as when i got ferdinand 9 on my top, and a week later that twat shearer signed and became number 9. Are you actually serious though? I thought the 'I bet he takes #22' line was an amazing punchline! nah am not serious, but i agree, the punchline was canny good! just wish this shit would hurry up and be done with!! Fair play

I hope you're joking nar... my mate said he had signed and was number 24, so i ordered the new blue top off sports direct website with his name on. he said he'd read the deal on some newcastle website You sir, are an idiot. Oh by the way, if you send me £100 I'll make sure he signs. i know i feel so stupid, i bet he takes number 22. This could be some of the best comedy ever. aye go on, laugh at my misfortune! nearly as bad as when i got ferdinand 9 on my top, and a week later that twat shearer signed and became number 9. Are you actually serious though? I thought the 'I bet he takes #22' line was an amazing punchline!

From Schweppes: I work at BBC Newcastle. I am not on the telly or anything like that. I am a whats known as an archiver. I assist with putting together stories. I am getting info from AP news wires and also sports journalists So he looks stuff up online and reports it as a source?

Is it not just a difference in policy Wullie? Previously the owners didn't mind the debt increasing, so allowed spending to continue. Ashley wants to make the club self-sufficient, so he's not sanctioning any increase in borrowing. Obviously the economic situation has worsened massively as well. Obviously you'd be silly to stop buying lightbulbs because you have a mortgage to pay. But equally you'd be silly to take out loads of credit to buy a plasma telly and a new car.

I hope you're joking nar... my mate said he had signed and was number 24, so i ordered the new blue top off sports direct website with his name on. he said he'd read the deal on some newcastle website You sir, are an idiot. Oh by the way, if you send me £100 I'll make sure he signs. i know i feel so stupid, i bet he takes number 22. This could be some of the best comedy ever.

Newsflash - newspapers don't usually know anything about what's really going on with transfers.

You should be apologising for unlocking it mate.

Hope its a good day for you guys. Some great memories of going to the game with my Dad, which might sound cliché, but it really is a great bit of bonding. My Dad had to nearly force me to go to my first game, I wasn't in to football at all. Then I fell asleep in the second half! Think it was a 3-1 cup victory over Sheff Wed, seem to remember Srnicek having a howler and dropping the ball for their goal. I might be making that up though, it's pretty hazy! [/offtopic]

By the end of the week.

I doubt he's even fit, he never usually is.

We've already had the argument about whether our new policy is right or wrong though. I've been through grief about that, now I've reached acceptance. It is what it is, all transfer dealings have to be viewed through the 'we're skint' lens now.

You've planted seeds of doubt in my mind now Better let him clarify himself!