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first time a ref has stuck with his own decision not to award a pel?

yeah me too. sure their keeper should have seen red early on, or was that a different game? shearer had too much power at the club and i think freddie was in awe of him. Al stayed a year or two too long. sentiemnt got the best of us.

jurgen, who won a world cup final by cheating.

italy 1982. rossi basically getting them through. brazil or france should havewalked it. england went downhill after a decent first 2 matches.

we;ve had several poor games since the euros. this isnt really a blip.

we're effectively through to the next round so i hope he tinkers with team and tactics and lets the team express themselves a little more. we'd have to get absolutely battered off wales and even then it would need iran and usa to draw to get knocked out.

yeah a few england fans over there interviewed on 5live this morning saying that unexpectedly the lack of alcohol has made it more enjoyable. no hangovers, not being worried about getting lost after a game, losing things etc and just generally enjoying the games more. a few of them had been to 6 or 7 each already. praised the organisation and the locals.

but in the semi's we didnt tried to hold on and play for the draw. we went for them.

its not that we were shit today thats annoying. we've been shit and lucky in the past. the annoying thing is the lack of tactical nous or desire/knowledge to identify things arent working or players arent at it and then make changes accodringly and in plenty of time. just same old, same old.

honestly why bring Hendo on?

cant wait for the bournemouth cup game

the second halfs in each game. any positive changes to try and go for the win? we were crying out for positive subs and had pace and talent on the bench but he was too scared of losing rather trying to win against italy.

i dont expect us to win every game. but i do expect the coach to try to change things when its obvious its not working and be pro-active and brave.

was dalglish a more successful manager than SBR because he got us 2nd in the league? we still won nowt.

at least those teams tried to go for it. and the coaches tried making active positive decisions in game.

they may have bottled the pels, but not during the games themselves. they really went for it and played well. even when we whimpered out against spain in 82 we actually gambled and tried to win the game.

its not about having that god-given right. but when you're given the chance, to totally bottle it is unforgiveable. at least give it a go. i was never angry at hoddle, venables, SBR when we lost on pels each time as we really gave it a go n each game. we practically gave up against croatia and italy under southgate.

absolutely not. Bruce is an abomination of a human being. at least southgate is a decent bloke who's players seem to look up to.

southgate is a good man and a good manager of men. he's a shite coach.

and went to try and actually win them, just fell short and lost on pels on each occasion. southgate is not even close to venables or SBR in terms of best england coaches. would even rate hoddle higher.

can accept players being off form or struggling in a game. its then the coach's job to change things. we're allowed 5 subs nowadays. he could have changed half the team, the whole sytem, and started doing it sooner. there's obviously no plan b that has been coached into them. has southgate actually improved over the past 5 years? the quality of our squad has.

snap.

technically our second most successful manager of all time cos he reached a final. but his management of that game is one of the main reasons i hate him. he hasnt learnt from it all. in my eyes none of the likes of venables, hoddle, SBR etc would have surrendered to italy the way we did and played to avoid defeat with the talent we had in the squad. he failed his biggest test.

eh? Howe started with a winless team bottom of the league, zero confidence and no coaching for over 2 years. he got them turned round within months and brought in decent players. southgate has been there years and still has no plan b or idea how to use the few world class players that he's got.

i'd rather try a coach who knew tactics, game management etc and was more interetsed in trying to win a game than trying not to get beat.