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5 Million bid for KakA UPDATED: It is understood that since going to press - the Newcastle United offer has been withdrawn.

Just looked at a Spurs forum and this was top of the first page i clicked on. "gah it;s so much money for such an unknown player. i;d sooner get someone like nicky butt in for around £7million" f*** me. really?!?!?!?! I hope Redknapp thinks that.

It was on SSN a while back. In that case, I'm sure the person you heard it off hasn't a clue what they're talking about. Thats is true.

Xisco & Nacho Gonzalez' loan fee? Yeah, because Gonzalez loan fee was £6,2 million is this an FM type thing where transfer money can only be used on other transfers ? how much did we spend against how much we brought in ? how much will gutierrez actually cost assuming the case is still going on ? I heard Jonas could cost us anything up to 15M I think the case is Feb 1st. I think the person you heard that off hasn't a clue what he's talking about. It's up to Gutierrez to pay any compensation for one thing, not the club. It has nothing to do with us unless they can prove we were in contact with him before he terminated his contract and induced him to leave. If that were the case, he'd be banned for playing for 4 months and we'd be banned from making any transfers for 2 windows. pretty sure the fifa law is quite draconian to the extent that a club has to prove it had no contact otherwise it will be assumed that there was contact. It does say that - presumed guilty until proven innocent - but I'm not sure how you can PROVE you had no contact with someone. Xisco & Nacho Gonzalez' loan fee? Yeah, because Gonzalez loan fee was £6,2 million is this an FM type thing where transfer money can only be used on other transfers ? how much did we spend against how much we brought in ? how much will gutierrez actually cost assuming the case is still going on ? I heard Jonas could cost us anything up to 15M I think the case is Feb 1st. I think the person you heard that off hasn't a clue what he's talking about. It's up to Gutierrez to pay any compensation for one thing, not the club. It has nothing to do with us unless they can prove we were in contact with him before he terminated his contract and induced him to leave. If that were the case, he'd be banned for playing for 4 months and we'd be banned from making any transfers for 2 windows. It was on SSN a while back.

How come he names the players we havn't signed but won't name the ones we have or are at least close to? He's a f***ing idiot. Kinnear has lost the plot. I don't know if he ever knew where it was.

How come he names the players we havn't signed but won't name the ones we have or are at least close to? He's a fucking idiot.

Probably just offered his agent 5m and he's pissed off with it knowing Kinnear,

Xisco & Nacho Gonzalez' loan fee? Yeah, because Gonzalez loan fee was £6,2 million is this an FM type thing where transfer money can only be used on other transfers ? how much did we spend against how much we brought in ? how much will gutierrez actually cost assuming the case is still going on ? I heard Jonas could cost us anything up to 15M I think the case is Feb 1st.

I think your right its much more likely going to end up being closer to £10 million. Unless N'Zogbia is used as part of the deal to reduce the price which I actually don't think is that unlikely. Rennes won't be able to afford his wages i suspect. Would be a backward step for him Joining any french club would be a step back imo.

Wise for manager? Hitzfeld. Nice. Capello? Would he leave england for us?

Wise for manager?

He's been in france since 2004 so its possible he doesnt need one.

Ha it's quite funny when it's not about us.

I'm amazed that £5million quid is a ridiculously low offer for a player in the French league who I've barely even heard of. The world is mental. It's because everton had a 6m knocked back and he's supposed to be better than Essien. last bit may be a slight over exaggeration.

Test 1: Passed Someone get his PES stats up and that should seal the deal. Passes the youtube thread, tackles like a lion, shoots like a Cannon from 1812.

Which of our players really cares about the club? :S Jonas, Taylor, Martins and Shay Jonas? says who? he's been here 5 minutes! I'd say Beye and Shola You can tell man. He's a legend.

Which of our players really cares about the club? :S Jonas, Taylor, Martins and Shay

Apart from being a greedy b******, not once, but twice aye? And trying to move to West Ham for nowt despite him being under contract with us.

They can fuck off witha loan, no chance we need players in and if we have to let some go it wont be on loan unless they have no chance of playing for us.

Probably just wants to know what tis like to play in front of a back 4 worse than our own .

Exactly what I was thinking. Looks like Kinnear has already found out exactly what it would take to sign the players already and has then gone to Ashley for the cash. Fingers crossed. And amazingly they now want more, I'd imagine. Exactly. I wish he would really be quiet on transfers in this manner. Remember how it was refreshing under this regime for us not to do our transfer business in public? What happened to that? I don't think he has been saying too much tbh. A little bit of info here and there doesn't hurt. He hasn't actually revealed the names of either of these targets too. So far it's all just speculation. What about Riise? I was referring more to the players we have supposedly bid for. Anyway my point is that he hasn't carried on about every player we have been in for has he? So he mentioned Riise as a possible loan. Don't think that is reason to brand him a loud mouth like Gorilla man did. To compare him to Harry Redknapp is ridiculous. Are you saying he isn't a loudmouth? I was referring to his other activities as well as him on transfers such as press conferences, the way him and Phil brown went at it last night, they way he talks about refs etc.

Exactly what I was thinking. Looks like Kinnear has already found out exactly what it would take to sign the players already and has then gone to Ashley for the cash. Fingers crossed. And amazingly they now want more, I'd imagine. Exactly. I wish he would really be quiet on transfers in this manner. Remember how it was refreshing under this regime for us not to do our transfer business in public? What happened to that? We appointed a loudmouth, cockney/Irish yob, who doesn't give a shit what people think and has little or no common sense. He's like a less talented version of Redknapp.

I think the two offers are for Mbia & Ebondo and with any luck Ashley will give a little bit more cash if needed, and He might do but I doubt it, Kinnear said he'll get back what ever he sells to add to this. So at least 1.5 for Geremi and if Zog goes you can add another 8m on top. Aye but will Ashley stump up and wait for the cash back when we sell a few or will he make us wait and we ebd up missing out on them. He'll probably wait, I remember when they sold Dyer, Big Sam wanted Elano in but they had to wait until they sold Dyer, subsquently Elano went to City and we got Smith, great days. Aye thats my worry, we are always slow to act and I doubt we will get them both for £10mill so we will need extra. Yeah we need that Mbia or another CM as a priority. I wouldnt mind if we went up to even 8 for him and brought in cheap cover at the back such as Finnan or a Loan deal. Its about time we had a big DMl like he is 6' 2" so no short arse, his stats are funny he likesa shot at goal but in three seasons he has had 73 shots 12 on target with 4 goals http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=84899&&cc=5739 Might have to tell him not to shoot too often tbh. Thats not exactly great accuracy. Edit: It shows confidence though which is a good sign. 53 starts 7 games a sub 73 shots, is that confidence or delusion? I remember when Martins first joined he'd pretty much shoot anytime he got a sight of goal. He still shoots very often but nowhere near as much as he used to, hopefully he'll realise over time if we get him when to shoot and when to pass.

I think the two offers are for Mbia & Ebondo and with any luck Ashley will give a little bit more cash if needed, and He might do but I doubt it, Kinnear said he'll get back what ever he sells to add to this. So at least 1.5 for Geremi and if Zog goes you can add another 8m on top. Aye but will Ashley stump up and wait for the cash back when we sell a few or will he make us wait and we ebd up missing out on them. He'll probably wait, I remember when they sold Dyer, Big Sam wanted Elano in but they had to wait until they sold Dyer, subsquently Elano went to City and we got Smith, great days. Aye thats my worry, we are always slow to act and I doubt we will get them both for £10mill so we will need extra. Yeah we need that Mbia or another CM as a priority. I wouldnt mind if we went up to even 8 for him and brought in cheap cover at the back such as Finnan or a Loan deal. Its about time we had a big DMl like he is 6' 2" so no short arse, his stats are funny he likesa shot at goal but in three seasons he has had 73 shots 12 on target with 4 goals http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=84899&&cc=5739 Might have to tell him not to shoot too often tbh. Thats not exactly great accuracy. Edit: It shows confidence though which is a good sign.

I think the two offers are for Mbia & Ebondo and with any luck Ashley will give a little bit more cash if needed, and He might do but I doubt it, Kinnear said he'll get back what ever he sells to add to this. So at least 1.5 for Geremi and if Zog goes you can add another 8m on top. Aye but will Ashley stump up and wait for the cash back when we sell a few or will he make us wait and we ebd up missing out on them. He'll probably wait, I remember when they sold Dyer, Big Sam wanted Elano in but they had to wait until they sold Dyer, subsquently Elano went to City and we got Smith, great days. Aye thats my worry, we are always slow to act and I doubt we will get them both for £10mill so we will need extra. Yeah we need that Mbia or another CM as a priority. I wouldnt mind if we went up to even 8 for him and brought in cheap cover at the back such as Finnan or a Loan deal.