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It's gotta be so easy to pull girls as a footballer. ...Not for everyone http://img.skysports.com/08/01/218x298/Petera_Ramage_625679.jpg http://www.facebook.com/s.php?ref=search&init=q&q=peter+ramage&sid=2301e3e2578f1e1332a2c20db7436908#/group.php?sid=2301e3e2578f1e1332a2c20db7436908&gid=41360052065 QPR fans love him. mackems.gif Still can't believe we stayed when he was our best central defender AND best right back for nearly half the season. and in which universe did this occur? The Universe where Huntingdon as our second best defender when everyone was knackered, back 4 was something like - Carr Ramage Edgar Huntigdon. To be fair we should have went down with that backline, League 2 at best overall.

Looking forward to this, was pissed off last time but I was more concerned about my back at the time. When will the teams be announced etc, and what was that about having 2 matches? I scanned the thread but couldnt find much about it.

Be too boring, He'd have killed all the men and made all of the women in there pregnant within 2 minutes and any pregnant women would now be having triplets.

to be fair to Duff, I reckon he produced his best performance for us since signing against West Brom, no doubt he'll be crap in this game but it would be unfair not to give him the chance.

Why not play the lot. Geremi-Butt-cacapa-Smith. That scares me seeing that

that new chelsea kit is awesome. like teh design, be sweet in black and white That's nice it has an inbuilt bra, would be perfect for Viduka.

Is it illegal to PM people to request PMs? As I understand his post, it is solely the act of soliciting PM's that falls foul. How you go about it means nothing in the eyes of the law. Yes but its the same principle in that youtube offering you the ability to search for said videos and also stroing them. Has anything ever happened to the tube about this?

We'd be better off playing Lovenkrands there.

From what I've been reading it sounds more like Calderwood's in charge tbh, all of the interviews on .co.uk are with him

I love a good pie, but I find its not a good idea if you're wanting to get pissed. Normally go to a pub for dinner before the match, get in my pre-match 6 pints then another couple at the game.

At the end of the day whoever makes us look silly is neither here nor there. Only Ashley can pay the bills or invest in the squad. NUSC can't do it and they can't provide anyone else who will either. They can't provide change, that is why the best they can hope to achieve is voluble protests which is what they are doing. No they aren't. They're promoting membership. I'll repeat... "I've approached the NUSC on a couple of issues and they've always been very useful in pushing forward my complaints. Those were grafitti, heavy handed stewarding and delayed refunds." People need to disaccossiate the NUSC from Ashley bashing i think it's NUSC who need to disassociate from Ashley bashing. Perhaps they do need to emphasise more of the other stuff they've been set up for. I think an unenthusiastic view of the ownership is warranted though, and shared by the majority of the fan base. I've not seen them advocate protests or boycoutts once though. So they're hardly to plame for the painted bedsheet brigade. You what? One of the few things they actually decided on in their meeting was the continuation of boycotting merchandise and drink/food outlets on matchday. A bloody rediculous thing to do imho. Exatly I said this the other day but, if every supporter did this we'd be financially in the shit. I only spend about a tenner maybe in the ground on matchdays and if everyone did that you'd be losing 500k per game.

Emotions were running high. In retrospect some mistakes were made and NUSC are aware of that. Yes but the media fella spoke just over a month ago, on the morning of the Liverpool game. Why was his emotions running high that morning? It was nearly 4 months after the sacking of Keegan, we all knew where we stood. We all knew the club was not likely to be sold in the near future, and yet he went on SSN and publicly slagged of Ashley. If he is a media spokesman then he is a crap one, as he burned yet another bridge for NUSC. Until they stop their public Ashley rants (and there were plenty at the meeting, and Ashley and co could listen to them online as easily as us) then why should Ashley speak to them. They don't represent all the fans views with this point, and they fail to realise that fans are not going to pay £10 to tell them that just to be ignored by the board. NUSC doesn't have the finances to be represented by Saatchi and Saatchi. Actually they do tbh, I used to deal with them (S&S), you could get a small marketing campaign for under 20k. Didn't they raise 50 grand or something to buy the club, job sorted.

Why can't Ashley get pissed? He was obviously taking the piss when he said Kinnear was better than Capello. Ashley can get pissed. Just not in the stands. I'm certain his intentions are always the best. I don't see Ashley as an evil mackem sent to destroy us. He's just incompetent, and has got more people around the country laughing at us than anything the NUSC have done. Why can't the NUSC have a rally to promote membership? They can if thats what its for, I highly doubt it is however.

The protest is because people are deeply unhappy about the way their beloved club is being ran and unlike the f***ing saps, they are actually trying to do something about it because they're clever enough to realise that we are the clubs greatest asset. Now if everyone was a Superfan and "just turned up no matter who owns it, who plays for us" they could asset strip and take the piss for as long as it takes to find a buyer, that is beyond f***ing stupid, but its the type of thing they're having to deal with by utter muppets with myopia. He could sell it if he wasnt wanting so much for it and if he continues to run it the way he is, the price is only going to come down. The NUSC claim to speak on behalf of the fans, they'll speak on behalf of their members, so why not join up and give them yours? I applaud them for doing what they're doing, but they're destined to fail because there are too many halfwits, too many opinions and too many people who are now apathetic. NUSC ignore what you say unless you agree with exactly what they say, whenever people say anything other than Ashley out, cockney mafia, wise is evil etc they ignore you. I am not happy about the way the club is run, but I'm clever enough to realise protesting against the clubs management when we are in the most dire straights since the late 80s early 90s is not sensible until we are safe. Like I said I'm not pro-Ashley, but he tried to sell and would have taken what he paid, but that didn't come along, the bloke is in danger of losing all his money in this current financial climate, he needs as much as he can get for the club. Strange they should hold open meetings then. Very funny, you know there is a small group of them that pretty much decide everything, I agree with some of their views but not in the way the operate. Join and then you can vote on what they decide. Simple really. Why would I want to join a group with views that oppose some of my own? It would be like joining an anti-hunting lobby when I like hunting. Are you a member? What views of yours do they oppose? Protesting before a match when it will do no good and I'm not pro-ashley but I do think what he is doing will benefit the club financially provided we keep our premiership status. We couldn't keep on spending like a champions league club when we weren't in it. I agree to an extent with all of that. Are you a member Parky? Yes. Do you think they represent you and your views in the way you would like them to? Genuine question. I only expect them, over time to represent a wide consensus. When they do that, I'll give them my tenner and sign up, until then I will not. I think the main problem at the moment is the people joining mainly have the same views and share the same hatred towards ashley et al. It's a great idea having a massive supporters club, I just think the execution has not been of the highest order.

Why can't Ashley get pissed? He was obviously taking the piss when he said Kinnear was better than Capello.

The protest is because people are deeply unhappy about the way their beloved club is being ran and unlike the f***ing saps, they are actually trying to do something about it because they're clever enough to realise that we are the clubs greatest asset. Now if everyone was a Superfan and "just turned up no matter who owns it, who plays for us" they could asset strip and take the piss for as long as it takes to find a buyer, that is beyond f***ing stupid, but its the type of thing they're having to deal with by utter muppets with myopia. He could sell it if he wasnt wanting so much for it and if he continues to run it the way he is, the price is only going to come down. The NUSC claim to speak on behalf of the fans, they'll speak on behalf of their members, so why not join up and give them yours? I applaud them for doing what they're doing, but they're destined to fail because there are too many halfwits, too many opinions and too many people who are now apathetic. NUSC ignore what you say unless you agree with exactly what they say, whenever people say anything other than Ashley out, cockney mafia, wise is evil etc they ignore you. I am not happy about the way the club is run, but I'm clever enough to realise protesting against the clubs management when we are in the most dire straights since the late 80s early 90s is not sensible until we are safe. Like I said I'm not pro-Ashley, but he tried to sell and would have taken what he paid, but that didn't come along, the bloke is in danger of losing all his money in this current financial climate, he needs as much as he can get for the club. Strange they should hold open meetings then. Very funny, you know there is a small group of them that pretty much decide everything, I agree with some of their views but not in the way the operate. Join and then you can vote on what they decide. Simple really. Why would I want to join a group with views that oppose some of my own? It would be like joining an anti-hunting lobby when I like hunting. Are you a member? What views of yours do they oppose? Protesting before a match when it will do no good and I'm not pro-ashley but I do think what he is doing will benefit the club financially provided we keep our premiership status. We couldn't keep on spending like a champions league club when we weren't in it. I agree to an extent with all of that. Are you a member Parky? Yes. Do you think they represent you and your views in the way you would like them to? Genuine question.

The protest is because people are deeply unhappy about the way their beloved club is being ran and unlike the f***ing saps, they are actually trying to do something about it because they're clever enough to realise that we are the clubs greatest asset. Now if everyone was a Superfan and "just turned up no matter who owns it, who plays for us" they could asset strip and take the piss for as long as it takes to find a buyer, that is beyond f***ing stupid, but its the type of thing they're having to deal with by utter muppets with myopia. He could sell it if he wasnt wanting so much for it and if he continues to run it the way he is, the price is only going to come down. The NUSC claim to speak on behalf of the fans, they'll speak on behalf of their members, so why not join up and give them yours? I applaud them for doing what they're doing, but they're destined to fail because there are too many halfwits, too many opinions and too many people who are now apathetic. NUSC ignore what you say unless you agree with exactly what they say, whenever people say anything other than Ashley out, cockney mafia, wise is evil etc they ignore you. I am not happy about the way the club is run, but I'm clever enough to realise protesting against the clubs management when we are in the most dire straights since the late 80s early 90s is not sensible until we are safe. Like I said I'm not pro-Ashley, but he tried to sell and would have taken what he paid, but that didn't come along, the bloke is in danger of losing all his money in this current financial climate, he needs as much as he can get for the club. Strange they should hold open meetings then. Very funny, you know there is a small group of them that pretty much decide everything, I agree with some of their views but not in the way the operate. Join and then you can vote on what they decide. Simple really. Why would I want to join a group with views that oppose some of my own? It would be like joining an anti-hunting lobby when I like hunting. Are you a member? What views of yours do they oppose? Protesting before a match when it will do no good and I'm not pro-ashley but I do think what he is doing will benefit the club financially provided we keep our premiership status. We couldn't keep on spending like a champions league club when we weren't in it. I agree to an extent with all of that. Are you a member Parky?

Just like in 2001, yes. Dead easy. It's a mystery as to why everyone isn't doing it. The successful teams are. Like Spurs sitting below us in the league I never said it was foolproof. So with Ashley's muppets in charge maybe it would be unwise (no pun intended) to be fair to wise you can't argue with his signings other than possibly Xisco but he hasn't been given a decent chance. Would keegan have found Bassong or Jonas?

The protest is because people are deeply unhappy about the way their beloved club is being ran and unlike the f***ing saps, they are actually trying to do something about it because they're clever enough to realise that we are the clubs greatest asset. Now if everyone was a Superfan and "just turned up no matter who owns it, who plays for us" they could asset strip and take the piss for as long as it takes to find a buyer, that is beyond f***ing stupid, but its the type of thing they're having to deal with by utter muppets with myopia. He could sell it if he wasnt wanting so much for it and if he continues to run it the way he is, the price is only going to come down. The NUSC claim to speak on behalf of the fans, they'll speak on behalf of their members, so why not join up and give them yours? I applaud them for doing what they're doing, but they're destined to fail because there are too many halfwits, too many opinions and too many people who are now apathetic. NUSC ignore what you say unless you agree with exactly what they say, whenever people say anything other than Ashley out, cockney mafia, wise is evil etc they ignore you. I am not happy about the way the club is run, but I'm clever enough to realise protesting against the clubs management when we are in the most dire straights since the late 80s early 90s is not sensible until we are safe. Like I said I'm not pro-Ashley, but he tried to sell and would have taken what he paid, but that didn't come along, the bloke is in danger of losing all his money in this current financial climate, he needs as much as he can get for the club. Strange they should hold open meetings then. Very funny, you know there is a small group of them that pretty much decide everything, I agree with some of their views but not in the way the operate. Join and then you can vote on what they decide. Simple really. Why would I want to join a group with views that oppose some of my own? It would be like joining an anti-hunting lobby when I like hunting. Are you a member? What views of yours do they oppose? Protesting before a match when it will do no good and I'm not pro-ashley but I do think what he is doing will benefit the club financially provided we keep our premiership status. We couldn't keep on spending like a champions league club when we weren't in it.

The protest is because people are deeply unhappy about the way their beloved club is being ran and unlike the f***ing saps, they are actually trying to do something about it because they're clever enough to realise that we are the clubs greatest asset. Now if everyone was a Superfan and "just turned up no matter who owns it, who plays for us" they could asset strip and take the piss for as long as it takes to find a buyer, that is beyond f***ing stupid, but its the type of thing they're having to deal with by utter muppets with myopia. He could sell it if he wasnt wanting so much for it and if he continues to run it the way he is, the price is only going to come down. The NUSC claim to speak on behalf of the fans, they'll speak on behalf of their members, so why not join up and give them yours? I applaud them for doing what they're doing, but they're destined to fail because there are too many halfwits, too many opinions and too many people who are now apathetic. NUSC ignore what you say unless you agree with exactly what they say, whenever people say anything other than Ashley out, cockney mafia, wise is evil etc they ignore you. I am not happy about the way the club is run, but I'm clever enough to realise protesting against the clubs management when we are in the most dire straights since the late 80s early 90s is not sensible until we are safe. Like I said I'm not pro-Ashley, but he tried to sell and would have taken what he paid, but that didn't come along, the bloke is in danger of losing all his money in this current financial climate, he needs as much as he can get for the club. Strange they should hold open meetings then. Very funny, you know there is a small group of them that pretty much decide everything, I agree with some of their views but not in the way the operate. Join and then you can vote on what they decide. Simple really. Why would I want to join a group with views that oppose some of my own? It would be like joining an anti-hunting lobby when I like hunting. Are you a member?

The protest is because people are deeply unhappy about the way their beloved club is being ran and unlike the f***ing saps, they are actually trying to do something about it because they're clever enough to realise that we are the clubs greatest asset. Now if everyone was a Superfan and "just turned up no matter who owns it, who plays for us" they could asset strip and take the piss for as long as it takes to find a buyer, that is beyond f***ing stupid, but its the type of thing they're having to deal with by utter muppets with myopia. He could sell it if he wasnt wanting so much for it and if he continues to run it the way he is, the price is only going to come down. The NUSC claim to speak on behalf of the fans, they'll speak on behalf of their members, so why not join up and give them yours? I applaud them for doing what they're doing, but they're destined to fail because there are too many halfwits, too many opinions and too many people who are now apathetic. NUSC ignore what you say unless you agree with exactly what they say, whenever people say anything other than Ashley out, cockney mafia, wise is evil etc they ignore you. I am not happy about the way the club is run, but I'm clever enough to realise protesting against the clubs management when we are in the most dire straights since the late 80s early 90s is not sensible until we are safe. Like I said I'm not pro-Ashley, but he tried to sell and would have taken what he paid, but that didn't come along, the bloke is in danger of losing all his money in this current financial climate, he needs as much as he can get for the club. Strange they should hold open meetings then. Very funny, you know there is a small group of them that pretty much decide everything, I agree with some of their views but not in the way the operate.

The protest is because people are deeply unhappy about the way their beloved club is being ran and unlike the f***ing saps, they are actually trying to do something about it because they're clever enough to realise that we are the clubs greatest asset. Now if everyone was a Superfan and "just turned up no matter who owns it, who plays for us" they could asset strip and take the piss for as long as it takes to find a buyer, that is beyond f***ing stupid, but its the type of thing they're having to deal with by utter muppets with myopia. He could sell it if he wasnt wanting so much for it and if he continues to run it the way he is, the price is only going to come down. The NUSC claim to speak on behalf of the fans, they'll speak on behalf of their members, so why not join up and give them yours? I applaud them for doing what they're doing, but they're destined to fail because there are too many halfwits, too many opinions and too many people who are now apathetic. NUSC ignore what you say unless you agree with exactly what they say, whenever people say anything other than Ashley out, cockney mafia, wise is evil etc they ignore you. I am not happy about the way the club is run, but I'm clever enough to realise protesting against the clubs management when we are in the most dire straights since the late 80s early 90s is not sensible until we are safe. Like I said I'm not pro-Ashley, but he tried to sell and would have taken what he paid, but that didn't come along, the bloke is in danger of losing all his money in this current financial climate, he needs as much as he can get for the club.

What is the protest for? To get Ashley out, he tried selling the club and couldn't, are these people that retarded they don't realise a recession is going on, Billionaires are now millionaires, just like Ashley. He tried selling it but couldn't do you want him to give away half of his worth for nowt, would you?

Making decisions isn't the club's strong point. We'll just cross our fingers and hope Kinnear gets better and comes back. If he doesn't, we'll just leave Hughton in charge and cross our fingers that he'll do fine. If he keeps us up, we'll give him a 3 year contract. No-one seems to have the bollocks to do anything but the default decision at this club. I'm not sure that Llambias feels able to make decisions on his own in the way that Mort appeared able to. Llambias doesn't seem to want to do anything without first getting Ashley's backing. is his role the same as mort's was? in the Q&A he said his job was different to the stuff mort did. Mort was Chairman, he's MD, he's not involved in the football side, he's there to make sure the club makes money, Wise is in charge of the football side, transfers etc. Obviously Mort came in until they found both an MD and DOF.

Other than his 250M outlay, yes you are correct.