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Thought Marveaux's corners were alright tbh.

Cisse is good either ghosting into areas or getting early balls. Right now we're not really getting round the back of teams so he can ghost in and we're not playing the ball early enough. He's getting a little anxious and he's straying offside too often. I do think you can see a pattern emerging between him and Moussa though. We are starting to play it into Cisse's feet (with his back to goal) and he's laying it off to Moussa and then spinning into space while Moussa drives forward with the ball. I think with Gouf and HBA making anitipatory runs off that move will give us a good attacking outlet.

Pretty much my feelings on the subject too. Don't get me wrong i'd rather have Coloccini in the side, but there's a silver lining here. Don't think Colo would have fluffed his lines like MYM did for the Swansea goal.

Obviously i was thinking that Marv could have come on after 70 mins or so but i could also see that Debuchy was providing a genuine threat down the right and Jonas would've been more likely to notice that and cover for him than Marv would so then it came down to who would Marv replace? Maybe Tiote with Mous dropping back along side Cabaye, again may not have changed the game much. Gouf off and Marv on the left, not sure about that either. Take off a defender? Wouldn't have done that. Hard to really put the loss down to Pardew. They are a very decent team with a very good ethos and a good manager. Despite this we were well in the game and if we had won it, i don't think Swansea could have complained too much. As it was, MYM wasn't a very able deputy for Colo and once again, Santon didn't look all that handy at defending. Me and and everyone else were happy to see those 2 starting though i'm sure. So, today was just one of those days. We deserved a point at least, came away with nothing. Ouch. Now we should go and take at the frustration of that on Anzhi.

Ibrahim Ba >> Rodman wannabe.

Anyone else think a bid for Weimann might be worth it? He's always looked quick and capable to me. Young and i think his contract expires in the Summer od 2014.

Dean Holdsworth.

At 95kg he would be a heavyweight surely. Unless you think that a switch from football training to boxing training would mean he'd lose weight....

I don't think Dembele is half as good as Modric was, they've also been short on Striker options. New manager, trying to mould new players into a new system, plenty to prove, i'd say 4th would be a great finish.

Still think he'll be on the bench unless there is a risk of re-injury.

Do you think he's a significant upgrade on Goufran?

My only point was that they shouldnt be allowed to do it. Didnt expect a hormonal Watford fan taking it personally Petty.

Thats another thing, have no idea who Ipswich have brought in but i am willing to bet they havent shipped over a load that normally wouldnt go there other than for a club partnership like Udinese. Seven or whatever from one club is a pisstake. Why? If it isn't against league rules then why? It is against PL rules, seems like cheating to get into a league with a squad that couldnt qualify to play in it imo. What happens if they get up? Always said there should be a sensible cap on loans, being able to field a side of them while other clubs have to spend money on their team surely isnt right? Surely the relevant point is that it's not against the rules of they league they're playing in. You seem to be indicating that a 'morality' should be adhered to, one that stretches beyond the principles of the competition they're in. My point is it shouldnt be allowed in any league, the fact that a club is allowed to do it is the pisstake like i said from the start. And the fact that foreign loans count as transfers shows what a farce the rule is. Perhaps there's a bigger picture here. Money is so unfairly distributed throughout the leagues and IIRC there was some recent ruling whereby Championship (and lower) clubs will make even less from selling their young developing 'stars' to Prem clubs that there becomes a neccessity for lower league clubs to stretch credibility just to compete (in the absence of a sugar daddy). I would think there's far bigger moral issues to do with the how the money football generates is spread than whether Watford sign several players from another club. A fairer system would negate the need for such measures.

Has Williamson cost us as many goals as Colo this season (in your opinion)?

Thats another thing, have no idea who Ipswich have brought in but i am willing to bet they havent shipped over a load that normally wouldnt go there other than for a club partnership like Udinese. Seven or whatever from one club is a pisstake. Why? If it isn't against league rules then why? It is against PL rules, seems like cheating to get into a league with a squad that couldnt qualify to play in it imo. What happens if they get up? Always said there should be a sensible cap on loans, being able to field a side of them while other clubs have to spend money on their team surely isnt right? Surely the relevant point is that it's not against the rules of they league they're playing in. You seem to be indicating that a 'morality' should be adhered to, one that stretches beyond the principles of the competition they're in.

Wait, haven't you been telling us the last couple of days that he's been s**** this season? No! CD has merely pointed out that he's been sh*t in the air, sh*t decision making, sh*t positionally, doesn't want to be here, shadow of his former self, had his head turned, lack of heart. Apart from those minor flaws for a CB he's alright. First name on the team sheet for CD ! Well he's better than Williamson and was vital for Saylor's revival. For the last couple of season's has been among the best in the league. This year he's been poor. If he's poor he shouldn't be playing. It's not that simple. Until Mbiwa came along we definitely did not have the quality in reserve. If you have a Rolls-Royce that is not performing to its level do you pack it in for a Focus? No, you work to improve the Rolls current performance. That's the last resort. Well, i'd say by your reckoning Colo's cost us more goals than Williamson so surely it's a no brainer.

I would think Jonas will start. Think it just illustrates that Pardew sees Cabaye as a more influential player, which of course, he is!

Wait, haven't you been telling us the last couple of days that he's been s**** this season? No! CD has merely pointed out that he's been sh*t in the air, sh*t decision making, sh*t positionally, doesn't want to be here, shadow of his former self, had his head turned, lack of heart. Apart from those minor flaws for a CB he's alright. First name on the team sheet for CD ! Well he's better than Williamson and was vital for Saylor's revival. For the last couple of season's has been among the best in the league. This year he's been poor. If he's poor he shouldn't be playing.

Wait, haven't you been telling us the last couple of days that he's been s**** this season? No! CD has merely pointed out that he's been sh*t in the air, sh*t decision making, sh*t positionally, doesn't want to be here, shadow of his former self, had his head turned, lack of heart. Apart from those minor flaws for a CB he's alright. First name on the team sheet for CD !

Thats another thing, have no idea who Ipswich have brought in but i am willing to bet they havent shipped over a load that normally wouldnt go there other than for a club partnership like Udinese. Seven or whatever from one club is a pisstake. Why? If it isn't against league rules then why?

I seriously doubt we were told to start deep, just that they got a fair few players around our box at the 1st opportunity and our defensive line sat a little deeper as a result. As to why we don't come out firing on all cylinders for the 2nd half of games, i don't know, haven't a clue.

NO, not acceptable. Southampton were all over us for 5 whole MINUTES! The whole slow start thing on Sunday was ridiculous. That said, we were a bit sluggish coming out for the 2nd half and not just against S'oton but just about every Prem game we've played this year. They're sort of separate issues because Sunday was unusual but why we're off the pace at the beginning of every half is a bit weird!

Didn't Llambiarse say everyone is allowed one bad season? I guess this is Pardew's (unless we win the Euro cup). I guess then that next season will determine if they stick or twist.

I'd perhaps agree if it wasn't about to be saved by Krul anyway. Ya but we can only assess the value of that contribution based on what actually happened not 'if's scneario. I've just told you what actually happened. That statement seems rather stupid.

Which mistake has he not learnt from recently? (starting slowly does not constitute a mistake as I hardly think he sets the team up to back off for 10 mins) Putting Cisse on the wing maybe ? Which he's done once in the last 6 games, barring the odd 5 or 10 minute spell here and there. Hardly a mistake when it's part of a gameplan that ends up winning the game. I don't why i'm arguing this, i've not been one who thinks he f**ks up CONSTANTLY but in reposte to you, i don't think Cisse on the wing contributed to our success that night. As regard to my view on Pardew (not that you asked ) is that i don't think he's done particularly well with what he's got. We could and should be better. Better players helps but better players help anyone and everyone. Before the Jan signings i thought we looked in a real mess and we were slipping well into a dog fight to stay in the league. We had better players AVAILABLE at the time than that but we were still there. I thought some of that would be down to him. I thought that if we went into the bottom 3 he should have gone, as it was the board opened it's purse and we have a much improved squad. No threat of relegation now in my mind so Pardew should stay. If the rest of the season goes well, unless someone of a very obvious step up in quality fancies it, Pardew should probably get next season too. If the rest of this season is poor, i think the board need to examine their options. They'll have a squad full of assets piddling down around the bottom, which isn't good enough for anyone i'm sure.