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Ashley doesn't know what a decent standard is.....that's why your mate is in the job in the first place. Exactly, and that's why Kinnear is pretty much 99 percent our next manager. Easy option and cheap. Not disagreeing with you but following your logic of argument, why didn't Kinnear take over the managers role in the Summer?

the thing is, by the logic of your own point in the same post there's nothing in his history to suggest getting the players he wants is any help to him either Well, for NUFC we've got Obertan and Ba. That's a hit and a miss.

Kindly quote which posters want JFK in charge. He is obviously saying people want Pardew to go not that they want JFK. Sadly the likelihood is that he will take over as he goes on to say in the next sentence. Tbf, i thought he was having one of his usual pops at what he sees as the Downer Crowd. We're all terrified of the idea of JFK in charge of anything! I think i can say that if i had a choice between Pardew and JFK, i'd probably stick with Pardew. I don't think Pardew is a complete idiot or utterly clueless. The idea is preposterous. Of course he knows about football, possibly more than all of us put together. It's what he's done professionally for quite a while now. He has however got himself and us into a rut that he can't seem to get us all out of. And it's happened to him before. He doesn't appear to have the ability or the character to turn it around in time. I'm sure there's a lot of other bang average managers who would be in the same boat if they were here. The situation is not in any helped by our ideaology of buying players based on whether or not they're a bargain and not whether we need them for the team. i think that's definitely been a hindrance to him and will be to the next guy if we keep with the same stupid policy.

Kindly quote which posters want JFK in charge.

Not giving that rumour any credence but it might be that he suffers a financal penalty by resigning.

He's got a BAD MAN walk i think.

Without meaning to be pedantic we've only really had 1 good win and that was away to Villa. That was also their 3rd league loss on the bounce so perhaps they were suffering a bit. I would have expected us to get a result against Fulham. Don't know if you thought we would. They are currently 3rd from bottom so not proving much kop this season. Villa away was the only decent performance so far from us. That's 1 in 8.

W4 D1 L2 He can't be judged on Man City but he can be judged on Morecambe and Leeds? Parody.

I didn't see anything last night to give me confidence against Cardiff. I'd be looking for the exact opposite of what we turned up with yesterday. Christ sur ​​un vélo

MYM suffered from serious indecision. That's terrible in any position but at CB it's fatal. A lot of his indecision though was down to having no faith in Colo to do his bit. So MYM didn't know whether to stick or twist half the time. Hope he learns from this and just does what he ought to do and if his partner f**ks up then he can see if the manager has the balls to haul him off instead.

He's not an awful footballer by any stretch but he has yet to get his head around the concept of what a fullback does.

Saying that though, Lukaku had the ball in the net about 4 times in that first half Aye, the linesman was our best player for the 1st 40 minutes!!!!!

gimp clarified what he meant in the next f***ing post Everton took their foot off the gas, our passing was still all over the place. we got two flukey goals. Good spin tho brett. Cabaye's goal was a fluke? yep I won't be replying to you no longer. Clueless! It was a good hit, great strike but it was exactly great team work that created it. So because no team work is involved a goal is flukey? I'm still baffled by this observation tbh. Wtf does it matter? We lost and put in a terrible 1st half performance and we only showed up when the game looked over as a contest. Cabaye scored from outside the area. Do f**king do whoopee.

Did you watch the game? this is flat out not true. He lost it once or twice but more times than he lost it he got round the outside of Coleman and the one time he switched with Sissoko to go central he beat his man and had a decent shot. Pardew taking him off could be a number of things: he got mouthy at halftime and questioned tactics?, he was injured?, or pardew was annoyed with his selfishness and/or lack of work ethic. He was the only player trying to make something happen for us in that first half. The fact it's been 2 years running now that Pardew has refused to play him in his usual position because he's scared of Baines really annoys me. For 1, once baines was on a yellow card Ben Arfa should have been switched immediately to try and get him sent off by taking him on. Secondly if he was so scared of what Baines would do going forward surely him having Ben Arfa behind him would have meant he couldn't attack as much anyway. It's amazing how different Pardew views things though, he's far more concerned with attempting to stop other players, rather than letting the opposition worry about us, which would actually help stop opponents, as you said with regards to Baines and Ben Arfa. It honestly baffles me how somebody can be so negative all the time despite seeing very little in terms of positive results. Well, tbf, good players do both. Our lot are not doing either at the moment which is a real problem.

It's utterly bizarre when you remember that 1st half performance that on top of scoring 2 goals, we hit the post and Remy narrowly missed. We have a lot of work to do to stay out of the bottom six but Everton have a lot of work to do to be in the top six come May.

Why can't he see that having a system where you have a limited manager who has little or no say in who the players the club buys is not working? I do believe that if Pardew could choose the players the club buys we wouldn't be this sh*te. We'd still be sh*te but not THIS sh*te.

Thought he wasn't really in the game while it mattered. Their CBs had our lobs covered all evening. I can see the possibility of him and Gouf being an ok partnership. We don't have the players for a midfield 4 behind them though.

So you disagree with gimp that it's a fluke then agree with every other single football fan with an ounce of intelligence that is was a great goal out if the blue which dragged us back in to the game. As long as disagree with Gimp's fluke analysis I'm cool with that. you're putting words in my mouth. I think that Gimp was saying exactly that. That the goal itself was fluke in terms of it coming from absolutely nothing. I could be wrong like. Holla at me gimp. It wasn't a worked opening in the same way that Cisse's 2nd against Chelsea a couple of years ago wasn't. Just a great and unexpected strike.

We are realy quite poor in the transition from attack to defence. Maybe that's why Pardew isn't an advocate of us flying forward. Perhaps he's worried that we don't get back into position quickly enough when we lose the ball. Well, that's true, we don't! Must be incredibly frustrating for the manager, coaches and players that we can't get these things right. They are fundamentals of the game.

I think he lacks confidence in the players. I think they realise this and they lose a bit self belief as well. That makes him lose even more confidence in them and it just starts becoming a negative cycle.

Scraping round for crumbs, we have conceded 5 and 6 in recent seasons with second half showings as bad as the first. At least we avoided that level of embarrassment. Martinez must be livid tbh. Because the game should have ended exactly like that.

It's a game that can't be won man. Does something wrong? Blamed and well deserved. Does anything right? Should have been doing it anyway, no credit. And anyone who thinks I'm misrepresenting the no-win fantasy world they live in, where the minimum acceptable criteria for a manager is "gets everything right all the time", please, provide a comprehensive list of things you would actually give pardew credit for. And I don't even like the f***er - although to some I'm sure if I'm not actively trying to set him on fire I must want to lick his hoop - I'm just tired of the ridiculous blindness on display sometimes. I love the I don't even like him disclaimer while defending him. Saying that there are some on here who would rather chew off their own dicks than say he got something right - and create unwinnable situations so that that can never happen - is not defending him. On this one, you don't know what you're talking about. Just leave it.

Oddly enough, i could still see the logic of starting him against Frazer Campbell.

The battered wives club have already covered their ears, mate.

If only sportsmen could be judged on what they said.