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In fairness, that's a good point. You were lucky when you went down in that you shifted a load of utter dross, and managed to keep the nucleus of a good side, and therefore come back again.

It doesn't really mean anything. Like when you go on holiday in Europe and you see foreigners wearing t shirts with English slogans on that mean absolutely nothing.

The bottom half of the table has been insane this season. I just read that, should you not beat Arsenal, Stoke draw with Soton, Fulham not win at Swansea, Man City beat Norwich, and we beat Wigan this weekend, we will finish 11th. There are loads of utterly mental combinations of results you can throw together which are actually quite realistic, and lead to some very surprising league placings.

Have to say, I'd have him, he's a very promising player. Although I do have a problem with his face. He looks like a scrote.

Yep, said a while ago I would rather stick with Pardew than get that "boost" (didn't last long) signing an embarrassment of a manager. It is a dreadful signing. Even leaving aside his highly questionable politics, he is a league one mentalist.

Sunderland fans will be buoyant they are staying up, but somewhat less so when they think they're lumbered with that fascist nutjob for the next three years.

Maloney is a confidence player. Did ok for us at times, but then disappeared for months on end. He's bit like Wayne Routledge in that sense. Think he's the sort who just does better on a smaller stage, as he has at Wigan.

"Wigan have the FA Cup and memories you can't buy" Hmmm. Tell Chelsea and Man City that.

Wilshere with a horrible arm covered in tattoos. What the fuck is wrong with you young people?

On the bright side, how much more relaxed are you now than you were last week?

Ramsay scored - doesn't that mean a famous person dies tomorrow?

At 2-1 I had just stuck a tenner in my bookie account to take a bit of Wigan to win at 25/1, too. Fortunately, Podolski scored before.

Proper FIFA 13 goal, that.

Wigan will score again.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

Fucking hell. I feel somewhat sick.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy, though. The CL becomes more and more important financially, so stuff like actually winning things becomes less so. Once the financial aspect of winning trophies is diminiished, the importance of playing in the CL grows.

The way finishing fourth has become the new "winning something" tells you everything you need to know about English football and what has gone wrong. Arsenal this evening, for example, not won anything in years, but they can handle that, it's the possibility of getting dragged, screaming and kicking, off the golden financial CL teat they suckle on year after year which really scares them. That's wrong, really. I wonder what Herbert Chapman would have made of it.

I think the joint Villa-Sunderland badge deserves another airing if Wigan win today. There was a joint badge? Aye, it was a total cringe crest. Logo. That then promptly disappeared when we got into trouble in the league and took their best player off them.

Not really a pet hate but Don't you crave the glory? It's a fucking joke man. I note that we have done our best to keep good company with you in that our last win was only just after yours. Seven times but not for almost 60 fucking years.

A Cup. Although in fairness to Wigan, I can see why their fans might not agree. The difference is, if a Newcastle or a Villa go down, they're obviously going to come back at some point. Wigan might never come back.

Martinez gets sides to pass the ball around nicely, but he never reallly has got that defending thing right, has he?

I'd like Sunderland to go down, mostly for the big stain it puts on MON's record, and because i don't like that fascist nutjob manager. However, for that to happen would mean Wigan winning tonight, which would then pitch me into several days of absolute total agony as I shit myself that we're going to do down at the weekend.

Jesus Fucking Christ *wave of nausea*

The problem i find with any match that combines large allocation plus cheap tickets is that they attract every single brain-dead pissed up twat who ever goes to a match. The twat count goes through the roof