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I used to watch a lot of Serie A and these days it is a bit of a mess. Average players where you never used to get average players. Outside the top 4 and the bottom 3, the Prem is really much of a muchness. You could take any two teams and swap their positions and nobody would bat an eyelid.

I really believe the Premiership is nowt like the best league in the world. Best *marketed* league in the world, yes. Best in terms of quality of football? No.

I'm doing that flicking my throat with my finger gesture as I type this. Why bother? No one can see you. If those comments from Capello are genuine, look at the date, Spurs didn't have a manager, he didn't have a job and his last comment acknowledges Spurs are nothing but could be big. He basically says he would like to work with a club with ambition in England, that could be anyone really. Chi se ne frega? (Who gives a fuck?). Ambition means half the premiership these days, I quite agree. It could actually mean West Ham.

I'm doing that flicking my throat with my finger gesture as I type this. You're 29? I had you down for older.

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? f****** hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. Says a newspaper article. Says Freddie Shepherd's mouth piece. Pipe down good lad. Could it be Shepherd actually telling Oliver to write that crap with the intent of making the Newcastle manager position look more glamorous then it is?? ** ruffles kingdawson's hair, pats him on the head and says off you trot. I guess your right though. All the great managers in world football harbour dreams of one day managing one of the top 4 clubs in the English league...............................................................................................and Newcastle Difficult to argue with. Some like Capello and Hiddink have shown no MASSIVE inclination though to manage in England though. Well Capello did say that Spurs are the club in the English league that interests him the most. PMSL "Si vaffanculo L'United, il Liverpool, il Arsenal, il Chelsea, vorrei a lavore nella moltissimo grande squadura nel' Inghilterra, Tottenham Hotspur(s)!" www.gazzetta.it/asifyouabsolutebeyondredemptionmong It is "vorrei lavorare", mate, no need for the "a". And "squadra" not "squadura", and moltissimo isn't used that way. They'd also be more likely to say "Il Manchester" rather than "l'United", it should also be "l'Arsenal". I'll let the other errors slip. If you're going to act clever, do it properly, like.

Aye thats the answer i got. Brummie it's the hawthorns mate. Even it it wasn't before this thread, it is now. I quite agree. Google schmoogle. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=highest+stadium+above+sea+level&btnG=Google+Search&meta= I rest my case.

Aye thats the answer i got. Brummie it's the hawthorns mate. Even it it wasn't before this thread, it is now. I quite agree. Google schmoogle.

West Brom. 551ft above sea level IIUGC Birmingham is the highest above sea level of all the major British cities by some distance, stands to reason it would be one of the three grounds in the city. I always used to think it was Oldham, but this was based on the fact that Boundary Park is without doubt a. the coldest ground and b. the windiest ground in England.

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part. Well what's to disagree with?? Fucking hell. You think he would turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? I seriously doubt it. Whereas on the other hand on more than one occasion he's indirectly registered an interest in the toon job. What's your problem exactly? This is one of the most informed, entertaining and honest sites around for football chat, but you always seem one step away from an enormous argument and just look to provoke it. Turn Man City down and go somewhere like Villa? There's an enormous irony in that that I'd trust even you to work out.

I wasn't referring to the unfinished business thing - I agree entirely on that part - I was referring to the bit after re the top four or Newcastle part.

And that is based on what? An opinion. Got a problem with that? I'd say if all the sides in the top flight maximised their potential Manchester City would be in the top 6 with us, and surely Houllier can see that? So if he's going to through third parties turn his back on an opportunity there I certainly couldn't see him going elsewhere. No, I was wondering whether it was based on opinion or fact. No need to be quite so defensive, mate.

And that is based on what?

My view is that with so many extremely wealthy people taking over Prem clubs, and with the absurd figures raised from the Sky contract, increasingly it will not be about who you can afford to buy, but who you can attract to the club in terms of who the manager is, what the set up is like throughout the club, how geared you are for success etc etc (as well as, obviously, how successful you currently are). I'm using "you" in general terms here, btw, not Newcastle in particular.

Bwahahaha, I can't believe someone outside City noticed that. He's become somewhat infamous for his somewhat limited vocabulary - The only words he knows are "This football club", "cute", "C.V." and "you know". I would have thought you would have to listen to everything he says to pick up on it, but there you go Listen out for Steven Gerrard, he honestly seems to have caught a very bad dose of it very, very quickly. It annoys me so much it has now got to the point where I can't watch football interviews without cringeing just in case they say it.

I'm glad Pearce has gone but not for football reasons. He's one of those people who, in interviews, ALWAYS says "the football club" rather than just "the club" (like we'd suspect they might be talking about bingo clubs or something) in an attempt to look in some way more authoritative than they actually are. Roeder used to do that, too. And i saw an interview with Steve Gerrard last night where he did it about 7 times in two minutes. Pearce was a particularly persistent offender. Good riddance.

Mccarthy and Huntelaar spring to mind. Reality check - neither of whom are going to join a club which isn't playing in the CL. As Gejon just said, as I've just noticed whilst typing, but hey ho, I'll say it anyway. Oh, and Anelka and Barton in the same team? Moody overload.

He's a yam yam, I know that much (ie from the Black Country) (which is not the same thing as beign from Birmingham, before anyone suggests it).

Worse than that, it was "Sweet boy" and his girlfriend was "Sweet girl". They had it embroidered on about 200 pairs of trainers each. He also had it graffitied on his games room wall. Read an article the other day about Gordon Cowans (now, he was a decent player) who now runs our youth academy having seen Jloyd roll up last week in his brand new baby bentley, and shake his head and mutter to the press about him just summing up your average footballer.

Boro aren't a club. They're a retirement home for the overpaid. A career hospice, if you will. But they won a trophy. That's what big clubs do. Personally I think the 'big club' debate is nonsense as it's obviously all subjective, but surely if you were to rank clubs logically you'd include all factors. When i said "win things" I meant plural rather than "win something", ie on a regular basis. I always imagine the big four (at the moment) looking down their noses, thinking "oh, they're arguing about being 'big' again" then going back to polishing their trophies. there are more big clubs than competitions to win tbh There are indeed, but the same four clubs every year for how long now?

I've given him a slagging on here before (several times today, in fact), but the thing with Samuel is he actually does have talent. He had one superb season down here, then seemed to get distracted (clearly having bagged his first proper money contract, I suspect), started losing concentration during matches (that sounds a bit familiar, i suspect), and then started moaning a little too much for my liking. However, there's no doubt he can do it IF his mind is in the right place. I suspect Allardyce might be able to get it out of him, but for now, I'd prefer him off our wage bill, MON has clearly decided he's got no future there. A change of scene may help him. FWIW, i also suspect that it is just lazy journalism, as Bolton have been linked with him on and off for ages, and he's available on a Bosman....

Is Owen bigger than Newcastle United? Probably, yes. In his own mind, I'm sure Owen is far more important than the club he plays for at any time. Note that this is the same with any player at any club. They're pretty much all self centred tossers. With the caveat that we don't know if Owen wants away, IF he does, then he really does need to question his morals if he's prepared to leave the club after what has happened since he joined. However, the bigger concern must surely be regarding the moron who agreed to such a release clause at those figures in the first place. It smacks of doing anything to get short term gain (ie the trophy signing, if you will) and not sparing a second thought for the long term consequences. Hard to imagine SA sanctioning that kind of agreement, but then that assumes SA would actually have input over that side of things.

Nail / head.

Boro aren't a club. They're a retirement home for the overpaid. A career hospice, if you will. But they won a trophy. That's what big clubs do. Personally I think the 'big club' debate is nonsense as it's obviously all subjective, but surely if you were to rank clubs logically you'd include all factors. When i said "win things" I meant plural rather than "win something", ie on a regular basis. I always imagine the big four (at the moment) looking down their noses, thinking "oh, they're arguing about being 'big' again" then going back to polishing their trophies.

Boro aren't a club. They're a retirement home for the overpaid. A career hospice, if you will.

No, big clubs are clubs that win things. And that's a fact that clubs like Newcastle, Spurs, Villa, Everton all have to come to grips with. Big clubs don't finish mid table which is what two of those four clubs have done this year, big clubs win trophies. End of. Until that happens they're all clubs with expectations and setups which may be geared towards winning things, but until that happens, it means jack shit. High finishes in recent years and decent players means absolutely nothing whatsoever compared to trophies in the cupboard. SA has gone to a club where the expectations are far higher than they've ever been at Bolton, and that is what he is going to have to handle. In a way, if he were to get a whiff of Owen not wanting to be there, the absolute best thing he could do for you would be to get shot as soon as he can. You'll get players who really want to be there, and send a message out that he's not to be fucked around with. Result.