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To be fair to Wesley - who I actually think is shit, at least at football anyway - he only played 20 games (5 goals) and then did his ACL and hasn't come back yet.

It's a bit depressing to read that. I watched the match and throughout, I found myself thinking that, although there would be absolutely zero validity in it as a statement, it was perfect 'reality distortion' territory for him, based on what we used to hear.

Whether we lose this or not, we're a more than decent side on the make, good performance. After almost an entire decade of unremittingly being bummed in the face year after year, I'll take that.

When we played them at home this season they got one for Fernandes literally stamping on Esri Konsa.

This.

Tommy Docherty - started the process of modernisation with us that took us from Division Three to European cup in 13 years. We're playing Man United tomorrow, quite appropriate.

Yeah he’s a beast. Energy and Desire. Imagine one of our plodders lime Shelvey or Sean Longstaff putting half as much effort in He's only just getting back to his best after a long injury lay off. £2.7m he cost. Signed by, errr, well, you know who.

Not wanting to claim any retrospective plaudits here, not least of all because it's depressing, but what is happening to you with him is 99% what happened with us, as I predicted. And what happened to us with him was exactly what happened to Blues when he was their manager. The only thing I've not seen so far with you is his cretin of a son weighing in on Twitter. For me, with us, the busy nauseating thing was the media closing ranks to protect him. I saw Murphy and shearer being coy about him on motd last night and almost vomited on your behalf. What you need to do is get someone to throw a cabbage at him. Worked for us.

Hey mate, what’s it like to enjoy supporting your club? Still getting used to it tbh. 10 entire years of absolute toilet almost uninterrupted then this. We lose games, win some, we're unpredictable but I get the feeling there might be something building slowly here.

Evening, all.

I used to watch your lot (in the flesh) quite a lot when Gascoigne first came through. I absolutely agree, Grealish and Gazza have a lot in common. As well as talent, they both have that bit of arrogance that real flair players have. The key difference is Gazza wanted to stay on his feet and cause damage in the final third whereas Grealish all too many times seems happy to just win a free kick. In Gazza’s era he wouldn’t even be getting the free kicks given either. Which is probably a main reason why Gazza didn't do it.

I used to watch your lot (in the flesh) quite a lot when Gascoigne first came through. I absolutely agree, Grealish and Gazza have a lot in common. As well as talent, they both have that bit of arrogance that real flair players have.

When you gave him the job, I remember saying - with no pleasure - that you'd see the following: utterly wretched football hopeless give-the-lads-a-slap-on-the-back style management zero discernible tactics team selections based on the players he thinks are 'good lads' or 'good professionals' a management style that relies on being better than enough other sides at not losing matches a value system in assessing results that is based on how acceptable it is to him - so long as he's not getting pelters, he's happy with it, he's the most important thing a truly grating 'woe is me' 'not my fault' approach to anything resembling criticism a media implying you don't like him because he's managed Sunderland / he's not foreign a scaling down of what is acceptable for your fans to a point at which it conveniently tallies with what he is actually delivering, vomit inducing obsequiousness to the people running the club He's very much like Martin O'Neill in that sense, and when he went to Sunderland, I remember posting on here what would happen there, and seeing it turn out to be true. The major difference, though, is that MON was obsessed with fast paced counter attacking football as his only way of playing, which only works in some circumstances, but is at least exciting to watch when it does work. Bruce doesn't have that going for him. It's so austere, drab and depressing. He got sacked by us after a wretched game against Preston, in which we missed a last minute penalty which would have drawn us level. It was the match in which someone threw a cabbage at him. We've not exactly moved on to the promised land since then, but it was seen in the media as OMG, how can they do it to a football man like Brucie? But for us, it's absolutely seen as a turning point in the evolution of the club. Thank god we missed that penalty. Dean Smith has his awful patches, too, but fucking hell, we are at least trying to improve, signing players to do it, and having a go at matches. We failed to beat Burnley at home today, but we managed 27 shots on goal. You accept goalless draws like that. Under Bruce that same fixture might have ended 0-0 but it would have been a 3 shot total match.

I am glad for him after what he went through with his Dad. Imagine getting made manager of the club you both support, and that your dad was a steward at, only for him not to understand it because he's got alzheimers, and then for him to die of coronavirus. Jesus, how horrible.

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I will admit, I lost it with him last season for a spell. However, less than two years in charge - took a bottom half championship club (one which Bruce had churning out some awful, awful football) to promotion (including winning ten league games in a row), had to buy half a squad (Bruce's obsession with loan players left us with a squad of about 11 players at the end of the season), kept us up and got us to a cup final. Two Wembley trips in all that, too. Really, really early days yet and as pointed out, there are some awful managers who have had good spells, but remain awful. It's pretty hard to look at that list of achievements, though, and not be impressed.

Our problem is going to be depth of squad. The first team look impressive. The stiffs not so much. Still, fuck it, it is enjoyable thus far. Aye, fair enough. If nowt else you're a probably third of the way to safety already. That's how I am looking at it. Anything on top of that is a bonus.

Our problem is going to be depth of squad. The first team look impressive. The stiffs not so much. Still, fuck it, it is enjoyable thus far.

This will get tiresome eventually. Don't be worrying, it won't last long. It's been 10 years of unrelenting dog shit.

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The casual arrogance of this 'big six' nonsense. Big six including Tottenham, a club who this year mark the start of the seventh decade since they last won the league (and they've only actually won it twice), but hey, we've got a nice new ground now and a famous manager and everything. Man City, a club which now has as much reality about it as one of those islands in the shape of palm trees in Dubai, picked at random to become a rich family's play thing, and which has spent fewer seasons in the PL than both Villa and Newcastle. Liverpool, a club whose revolting fans (specially in the media) spend every waking hour telling us how irreproachable and morally 'right' they are on everything, only to pull something shitty like this. And then Man U and Liverpool not voting for their own proposals, the former having sent that hapless Ed Woodward moron because the owners didn't fancy it. Spineless hypocritical nonsense, money and power grabbing pathetically dressed up as altruism. This is entirely about removing the link between performance, competition and income.

The thirst to extract ever more money from fans is fucking revolting. They can stick this shit right up their arses.

Solskjaer shattered numerous records the season before last and then finished third last year. Bit sad he's still not getting any credit. I mean you had 3 very good strikers on the books and signed a £60m midfielder in January to play with your £80m & £40m midfielders (idk exact prices) and score loads of dodgy penalties the 3 forwards won. It's not a sustainable gameplan imo; José showed you proper management on Sunday, they'd have dicked you off the pitch without the sending off. You'll beat your fair share of tripe in the league and win the odd "big" game but stop deluding yourself Nostaljaer will get you challenging, if you indeed are. And if you're not as a manyoo fan you should be wanting him replaced surely, given the standards the club has maintained over the last 30 years or whatever. There are clear issues at the back but a better coach gets more out of them imo. Bruno - £47.5m so you're miles off with that to start. Pogba and Matic aren't his players, and both looked completely done at the club until he came in and revitalised both. Already completely debunked the dodgy penalty myth too. 14 penalties, 12 stonewall, 1 dubious but not a clear and obvious error and 1 that absolutely shouldn't have been given. You're saying winning penalties due to our forwards being brought down isn't a viable game plan, but you do realise if they weren't brought down they'd be scoring? Absolutely hilarious you're saying Jose showed us proper management, as if the last few years haven't existed. We never got beat 1-6 under Jose but we played much, much worse than we did at the weekend. We are far more competitive in the league under Solskjaer than Mourinho. The start of this season has been poor but it's going to be a funny season. We shipped 6 to Spurs and were down to 10 men for 4 of them. Liverpool shipped 7 to Villa 11 vs. 11. Klopp out? Also, I can only assume you mean Rashford, Martial and Greenwood as the 3 very good strikers on our books? Greenwood was brought through by Solskjaer for a start, and under Ole, Martial and Rashford had their best seasons in a red shirt by an absolute mile. Again, Ole gets zero credit for that. Solskjaer has done a great job so far. Until an elite level coach becomes available I'm more than happy with him. I certainly wouldn't be swapping him for Poch, who's best achievement was leading Spurs to second place. It would be a sideways move based on their achievements in the Premier League. Out of interest on the penalties, how do you classify the one where you got one for Bruno Fernandes standing on Esri Konsa? That was a laughably poor decision.

Who wants to touch me?

Evening all.