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My worry is that we'll get relegated despite buying all the players we ever wanted. I'm not even at the stage where I'm beginning to worry about the summer.

I am a bit worried about this too. It will eventually become a weakness if only French players will join us. Clique-forming at some level is inevitable once you go beyond a certain number. If we end up signing all of Gouffran, Mbiwa, and Sissoko, it is even reasonable to expect that English be the primary language on the training ground anymore? Pardew has said they all have to speak in English whilst at training. That will obviously be the cast policy-wise, but once the French players start outnumbering the non-French ones you have to wonder how easy that would be to enforce. Yeah I totally see where you are coming from with that. Just wanted to point out that Pardew has already addressed it as it has been pointed out as a concern by the media. Yeah, I understand that. Time will tell I suppose.

Now that you put it that way, it's actually a significant concern.

I am a bit worried about this too. It will eventually become a weakness if only French players will join us. Clique-forming at some level is inevitable once you go beyond a certain number. If we end up signing all of Gouffran, Mbiwa, and Sissoko, it is even reasonable to expect that English be the primary language on the training ground anymore? Pardew has said they all have to speak in English whilst at training. That will obviously be the cast policy-wise, but once the French players start outnumbering the non-French ones you have to wonder how easy that would be to enforce.

I am a bit worried about this too. It will eventually become a weakness if only French players will join us. Clique-forming at some level is inevitable once you go beyond a certain number. If we end up signing all of Gouffran, Mbiwa, and Sissoko, it is even reasonable to expect that English be the primary language on the training ground anymore?

I won't complain about signing players for good prices, but it is a bit disappointing if the scope of our successful scouting system is limited to just France.

Such a decent human being this lad. Would be nice if he actually made it.

Not really relevant at this point, but personally I think the results at Old Trafford and the Emirates were what broke him.

My immediate fury from Saturday having subsided a bit I do pity the man a little. He had the chance to achieve so much here, totally change his legacy as a football manager, but all of that's gone down the drain in an alarmingly rapid fashion. It's also not untrue that he's had a lot of bad fortune. When unfortunate things start happening one after another, it's very easy to start thinking that the whole world is against you and that affects you a lot mentally. That "woe is me" feeling is probably why he's turned into an excuse machine lately. That said, it's his own fault that he's adapted to a bad situation in the worst way humanly imaginable. No one would even be talking about sacking him if we were something like 13th or 14th with a comfortable 9 point buffer off the drop zone, which would be deeply disappointing but still vaguely forgivable given our injuries and bad form. As it is, no amount of bad luck can explain away the embarrassing situation we find ourselves in right now and as much as I wish things had been different with him, ultimately the buck has to stop with Pardew.

True, like. I know I'd come pretty close

It's pointless believing anything, it's just blind guesswork when dealing with Ashley. Think it's pretty apparent that he's feeling the heat this window. I think this is about as close as we'll ever get to "total panic buy anything that moves" with Ashley.

Nonsense, that would make it a delicacy.

I've had the misfortune of watching nearly every QPR game this season because Park captains them so hey're always on TV. They're horrific. Team full of selfish individuals with no understanding, movement, or teamwork whatsoever. Redknapp has got a few decent results but fundamentally he hasn't changed that. Would be a massive effort for them to stay u.

Honestly don't know. Part of me wants us to go for a creative appointment that can take us places in the long term, but realistically we need to go for the first available unemployed Englishman to come in and bring some stability fast. Coyle, Hughes, Adkins.... Really, what difference does it make. They're probably all average but I'll take whoever we can get.

He can be as suave and well presented as he likes. He is incompetent. (A general comment; not contradicting your viewpoint btw) We know that now, but I struggle to believe that anyone could have thought that he was incompetent back then,

Remember him at the unveiling of the Sir Bobby statue at St James when I was over there last Spring. Looked confident and suave, shaking hands with fans, telling them to enjoy the match... Startling to think how far he's fallen in less than a year

Pretty harsh putting those two in the same sentence Unfair on Kinnear? Hughes is an average manager who did badly at his last job. Kinnear is a certified grade A lunatic.

Pretty harsh putting those two in the same sentence

Wonder if Ashley would be desperate enough to get the right man in this time that he'd actually spend money on compensation for a manger.

It's true, but I'd argue that the negativity on the pitch spread to the crowd first.

You don't even fucking know who will be playing for us next season man Honestly? I'm the unreasonable one here for not just assuming that we'll be shit next season in the Championship in JANUARY OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR? Seriously?

What is it on here with the stupid cunts on here slagging club legends off. Fuck off and watch Equestrian or Polo instead of footy you pleb. just because he's a club legend as a footballer doesn't mean he knows fuck all about managing or motivating a side I don't know whether Shearer is a capable manager or not, but I do know that that train wreck of a third of a season isn't anything near conclusive evidence to be making conclusive judgments about his ability as a manager. And there's certainly no reason at all to be calling him names.

Di Matteo will get mentioned forgot about him Owen Coyle is also available.

Honestly, everything I've been on about concerning stability, about how anyone could do a good job if given enough time, it's all irrelevant now. We are in that situation where everything has been so irrevocably fucked up that you either sack the manager and hope a miracle happens or you just wait for the inevitable. I remember posting four years ago saying how it was a straight race between us and Portsmouth to change managers and avoid relegation. Portsmouth sacked Adams, we stuck with Kinnear, they survived (for a year at least,) we didn't. We're at the same level of desperation. Oh, and to those of you who think it's cool to make posts starting with "some on here" and score points in this sort of situation, let me get it out of the way for you. I was wrong. People are allowed to be wrong. And while I understand that points-scoring is probably a coping mechanism for you, it's really fucking tedious at times like this.

I know I'm probably overreacting here but those last ten minutes, the players looked like they didn't think they'd be playing for the same guy next week. I think he's gone.