Wandy

I wasn’t there yesterday and didn’t follow the game at all but watched the highlights on MOTD this morning and it sounded pitiful. That fucking ee-I-o song is fucking cringeworthy and yet it’s the most sung in our already-limited songbook. I’m glad that Mehrdad posted his tweet in a spur of the moment. It shows that lack of atmosphere is now being noticed by the owners. I spoke to a lass I know yesterday who went to the game yesterday too. Before the takeover she had never been near SJP, yet she has won the ballot for five league games this season and has been successful for next week and also Fulham coming up. Yet there are people who have barely won a ballot all season. She also said there were Chelsea fans in L7, where she was yesterday, and described how they were getting howked when they equalised. Everything else about the club is so amazing so to see the state of the support and atmosphere is genuinely infuriating. I hope they know that they have got to get rid of the current ticketing situation entirely. It’s too easy for any random to get a ticket now. But that’s not the only problem. As has already been pointed out, even our so-called “proper support” isn’t even that good. A shocking song book and lack of terrace culture now exists even within the hardcore of the fan base. It’s so fucking frustrating.

No idea, but I'm sure it's really easy to do.

Whether it happens or not, I think it's safe to say that the club have at least looked into viability of moving the Terrace. If it really is on the table I do think that the current tennis court area would be the ideal relocation spot.

Couldnt have picked a better season. I reckon thats why they deducted them the points.

His ideal replacement is Ivan Toney. Whether we could afford Toney, whether he'd want to come back here and whether the club would be prepared to pay a fortune for a player we more or less gave away....well that might be a different story.

Yeah that's not a nice thing to have to experience. It's the club's fault that this has happened though. The systems that they have implemented are ill thought out and need changing. This story is just more evidence of that.

I was meaning they have been propping up the club from a support point of view, rather than anything financial.

I am frustrated by the ticketing, that’s the point. Hopefully the club do get it sorted. It’s early days and they have a mountain of stuff to fix so they deserve the benefit of the doubt. You’re never going to eliminate swearing and rowdiness from the game, I’m afraid. And nor should we want to either tbh.

Yeah I saw that, fair play to him. Doesn’t make me think any different about the point I made though. The new ticketing policy will allow more newbie/fair weather dickheads and people who generally don’t give a shit about the club to get tickets ahead of those who have been going for decades through thick and thin. I’m well aware that the club need to grow the fanbase, and of course all are welcome but it shouldn’t be at the expense of those who have been propping the club up for years.

Is that from the Facebook group? I can’t see it on there for some reason.

Absolutely no mention that people hate the ballot and want it binned off. Great stuff.

This is what you get when you make ticketing more accessible to any Tom, Dick or Harry, to the detriment of the hardcore of the fanbase. Expect to see more of these dickheads at matches as the club progresses. Just another reason to give the hierachy stick over the ticketing shambles.

He absolutely should not be going away for international duty. We should be telling Southgate to fuck right off.

Bournemouth really ballsed up when they got rid of O’Neil, he’s an excellent young manager.

Must admit I would have loved to have been at Anfield for that cup game but it was just before my time. Interesting that we sang YNWA occasionally back then. The only time I ever experienced it was on the last day of the 88/89 season at Old Trafford, when we had already been relegated. The whole day was just a singalong for us and we took immense glee in winding up the Man U fans by singing it constantly.

Yep, this is why it’s so frustrating for those of us who have witnessed what it used to be like. I was at two of the games on that vid, Spurs away in the cup in 87 and Everton away in 88. The noise was like that throughout the entire 90 mins. I’m not saying match atmospheres can get back to that level but surely there can be something that at least gets reasonably close. But the club have to help make it happen too.

It’s been commented on quite a lot how these days we sing ridiculously fast. I don’t remember us being like this back in the day and I was wondering if it was just my memory that was tricking me. Well, this video confirms that it wasn’t, and we did used to sing songs at a pace where people could actually understand what was being sung.

They absolutely are our rivals now, especially when we play them. The City version is superb and Man U should have it thrown at them by every team they play, as payback for the mocking their support dished out at various stadiums for 20 years. Payback time.

Dear me, that’s fucking shite.

Jesus, we have some doylems in our ranks mind. It’s not difficult to work out what the proper words are.

Surely you misheard that? It’s “Glazers staying 10 more years”….

It's happening mainly because the ticketing has been handled shambolically this season. A system has been created whereby people who were nowhere to be seen two years ago are now getting tickets ahead of those who have been going for years through all of the hard times. I have some sympathy for the hierarchy at the moment. The club has become an absolute monster again, like the 90s on speed, and it must be bewildering for them trying to keep up with the progress. But this cannot continue, & by the start of next season this has to be sorted. A proper loyalty system need to be in place for away matches so that dedicated away fans get priority over johnny-come-latelys who go for a day on the piss. And the ballot for home games needs binning off, with the queue brought back together with freedom of seat selection.

Dortmund don't have safe standing like the UK though, do they? It's literally just traditional terracing.

Just reading the comments on NUSC twitter and seems like there was real chaos in the terraced away end. Some of our younger folk getting a taster of football in the 1980s. Except without the great atmosphere in this instance.