mrmojorisin75

sorry lads i'm convinced by TCD, money talks and bullshit walks, it's not mcclaren he's just not had enough money

He was the one who got turned like he wasn't there to start it off tbf won the ball and it went to a palace player because colo was 20 yards too far back, he then came back and cleared the ball from danger on his own

i predict he'll put mitro on at some point, take perez off and sissoko will coast to another 90 as will colo

anita rightly raging at everyone

TCD says the only thing that matters in modern management is money though, so I suppose we should cut him a break instead of expecting him to do his fucking job.

if we get nothing from this he should go, but he said yesterday he won't so...

games basically over at this point, cisse got on the end of one cross but other than the we're shit

perez with the shearer-keane look

yep saying that now we're ahead lets leave pardew bloodied and broken on the floor

mitro never seen a ball like that either

harsh words done the trick with sissoko i see

you're clueless man, utterly clueless - every single season at least one manager comes in and makes a difference without money to keep a team up or better when the plodding failure is sacked even on that basic level my point is proven but if you don't think we should have more than 10 points at this stage with a good manager there's no hope for you, get yourself down to selhurst there's a guy waiting for the likes of you

If, by midtable, you mean 10th/11th, I think you're grossly underestimating the deficiencies of the squad. We simply don't have a very good team. Most of the bottom half have poor teams, they also have managers who can knit them into a team and coax performances. From the 6 teams directly above us, we have more quality than a maximum of 3 of them (Watford, WBA & Norwich). Watford is out of ignorance and WBA is very close. We are a bottom 6/7 team as a whole. We could do better with a good manager but the team is crap regardless. here we go again, stoke and palace aren't that much ahead of us if at all, they just have better spines My Lord - what a stupid post. The spine of a team is responsible for a disproportionate amount of a teams success. A team is only as good as its spine. "They're not better than us, they just have a better spine". Yeah unless you have Cronaldo at LAM, that's exactly what it means. Stupidest point i've ever read on this forum. Well done Mojo. OK man, never in the history of football has a team with a weak spine and good manager dragged themselves to more than 10 points from 13 games managers are the most important people in the game, don't listen to AP for a change, managers can make a difference there's no way this squad should be where they are IF they had a good manager, it's not difficult

the one in a five one defeat aye

said he'd only drop an easy target, fucking shocker sack

of coarse

this unless cisse FUCKING HATES pardew or something that is a terrible, terrible decision...the type of 'game is over before it starts' decision

i was just thinking about the TCD's post before and aye stoke and palace may have ostensibly better squads than ours but one of them has fucking pardew as manager and the other has hughes who is above average at absolute best the original point was a good manager gets more out of the squad and we're not in relegation trouble

If, by midtable, you mean 10th/11th, I think you're grossly underestimating the deficiencies of the squad. We simply don't have a very good team. Most of the bottom half have poor teams, they also have managers who can knit them into a team and coax performances. From the 6 teams directly above us, we have more quality than a maximum of 3 of them (Watford, WBA & Norwich). Watford is out of ignorance and WBA is very close. We are a bottom 6/7 team as a whole. We could do better with a good manager but the team is crap regardless. here we go again, stoke and palace aren't that much ahead of us if at all, they just have better spines that takes you to 10th in the league man, mid table, which is where we should arguably be ffs

If, by midtable, you mean 10th/11th, I think you're grossly underestimating the deficiencies of the squad. We simply don't have a very good team. Most of the bottom half have poor teams, they also have managers who can knit them into a team and coax performances.

Fucking idiot

Pardew has changed everything at this club. Before he came a manager was expected to make an impact regardless of his backing in the market, or otherwise. Since Pardew managers apparently have a free pass because the squad isn't great. He's shown absolutely f***ing nothing in 6 months in the job, nothing. And I said this about Pardew tbf. And for all the s*** players in the squad he still has Sissoko, Mitrovic, Perez, Wijnaldum, Janmaat, Mbemba and arguably a couple more who aren't utter garbage. He's coaxed one performance out of them the entire season, one, and we were even the worst team for most of that game. You do realise Keegan has just said this, don't you? Yes I saw that, so f***? It's proof of what I'm saying, Keegan coached improvement he didn't have to buy it from the off. The squad is poor but it's simply not 2 wins from 13 poor like. The manager is s*** and that shows. I don't know the exact figures, but when he came to start with he survived by the skin of his teeth (which he recognises in the statement) and his second time took a while for his first win. As good as the bloke is, he's not a magician Was 8-10 games before we won 2nd time iirc but you could see signs of improvement. First time the club had no money to buy their way out so he did on the training pitch. This is the point I'm making. But that's no different. We've seen signs of improvement this time, then its disappeared. As for his first time (and I should be able to remember as I was going then), I'm pretty sure we finished 5 bottom and believe me there wasn't a massive improvement in performances as Keegan recognises. I've seen almost nothing personally. And regardless of what Keegan said, just like Pardew used to cry about, McClaren is managing a squad of international players. A better manager, like Keegan, gets more out of this squad. That's the start and end of it imo.

Another Carr duffer