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You can't blame a manager for everything like. You can't just let him off the hook because he had bad managers Staggering, utterly staggering opinion considering the level of coaching, tactics and selections we've endured in the last 4-5 years. At various times Sissoko, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Debuchy, Janmaat, Ba, Cisse all played well under that poor management. A poor manager isn't an excuse for playing shite When the majority of players play poorly more often than they play well, and they're not shit players, then there's clearly a common denominator in the situation ffs. If it was 1-2 lazy flair monkeys then yeah I'd buy it, but it's not, it's been all of them for the vast majority of the time playing shite.

You can't blame a manager for everything like. You can't just let him off the hook because he had bad managers Staggering, utterly staggering opinion considering the level of coaching, tactics and selections we've endured in the last 4-5 years.

Into a season ticket. I'm getting two. No telling where this is going tbh

300k bairn or the Dutch fella with the difficult name? I know where my money is going

yep

that fatal mistake that stopped them becoming title contenders in the season to come? Think with Saurez and a proper GK Wenger could have added another title. I'd rather have Saurez than Neymar or Aguero. He just brings everything inc a work rate that is legendary. And he was prepared to buy Suarez. That Liverpool decided then not to sell despite us activating the buy-out clause is not his fault. We weren't exactly offering some derisory low offer, it was a perfectly valid one, well above what Liverpool had valued him at in his contract half what they sold him for after he nearly won them the title

point is suarez would have explode somewhere else, he went to one of two clubs in the world where he not the best player and he thrived on the competition

that fatal mistake that stopped them becoming title contenders in the season to come?

no, suarez had 2 options to be a great and that was real or barca and to be second to ron or lionel...if he'd gone somewhere and been the star he'd have fucked up again he made the right move

it's also the reason he's considered a 'failure' despite currently being the most successful PL manager

oh hai, when's the air show mate?

Very. and if it's true that they get to sell boleyn (london real estate ) and get to keep the entire proceeds the whole thing is surely one massive f***ing fit up I don't think that is true actually. care to prove that? i read it somewhere and it blew my mind...was an article or opinion about how west ham are going to be catapulted into the top echelons of financial competition

Is he more of a Type A or Type B player? pls stahp

coke / smack / booze

Got no club, released by Reading. wow

where is he now?

to me it's like one of those situations where they've all got to book holidays in advance, someone fucks up and the only people who can do anything are away at the same time

what about steve though?

nah, if he was forced to keep a team of cloggers and nobodies then maybe but his own ego would see him chasing better players and ultimately he can't handle them so it'd fall apart he's a fucking shit sandwich man

turkish league will be a blast

Very. and if it's true that they get to sell boleyn (london real estate ) and get to keep the entire proceeds the whole thing is surely one massive fucking fit up

They're two different things though; 'controlling a game' to me requires control through the midfield, whereas being solid defensively to the point where the other team know they can't break you down just isn't the same thing. Disagree tbh, you can have control in a number of different ways it's not just about the Barca way of dominating possession. Quite frankly every good manager wants control of the game there's just different ways of going about it. see follow up, it's semantics anyway mind

It's amazing how much this gets said. It just isn't true. We didn't control games that season at all. We just scored goals at the right time, sat deep and kept it tight at the back. The Tiote-Cabaye partnership played a key part in keeping it tight at the back though. They were fantastic together, often against a midfield 3 too. Since when does "controlling the midfield" only refer to the offensive side of the game? It doesn't and nobody said it did. We weren't in 'control' of games. We were purely reactive the vast majority of the time and if we conceded the first goal we were fucking done for because of our reliance on nicking a goal against the run of play. I'm going to agree with this, While we won a few games with Tiote and Cabaye together in midfield, they never really gelled together, if anything Tiote ended up playing further forward which he just isn't cut out for. Cabaye for me is only really effective when he's played further forward as part of a midfield 3. This means that you have to sacrifice a forward, and unless you have a really effective target man, that can leave you short of goals. easy to overlook this btw pardew

Trying to distill Arsenal's last 10 years into a lack of a goalkeeper and a defensive midfielder is crazy, Parky. The main thing thats stopped Arsenal being successful over the last 10 years is financial doping. They never had the depth that Chelsea and then Man City had, and they continually lost their best players to these teams. Having a goalkeeper or a defensive midfielder doesn't make a heap of fucking difference when Man City can afford to have 4 top class forwards to switch around when they fancy. The Chelsea/City era also just happened to coincide with the financing of infrastructure and a stadium that will keep them at the top of football in this country for the forseeable future. Arsenal has a football culture now thats in tune with the demands of modern football commercially and financially. It may not be what old time Highbury matchgoers think of what Arsenal should be, but its one that will keep them competitive on the pitch and as a global international brand long after Wenger goes. Without Wenger Arsenal could have quite easily ended up a PL alsoran like Aston Villa or something. In fact if they'd continued with their culture of the 80s and early 90s I'd say they almost certainly would have done. He totally changed the culture and then the infrastructure of the club for the long term benefit. What I will say, he should have took the domestic cups far more seriously when Arsenal couldn't compete in the league. It seemed like he continually invested all the clubs playing resources in the PL and CL when they were always likely to fall short. Winning a couple of League Cups/FA Cups during the dry spell would have took a lot of the pressure off himself. it's all in here somewhere it probably comes down to a combination of the club reigning in spending to fund the stadium as chelsea/abramovich started going mental then when they had money in the bank wenger definitely had a period where he stubbornly stuck to playing the youth team and only signing prospects when looking back now he was faced with fergie's manyoo, chelsea, citeh and liverpool/spurs trying to push on...now he's spending money they're back close to challenging that period as citeh got took over while he stuck with diaby, song and whoever else is what's hurt his reputation massively imo