mrmojorisin75

yep, we've done fuck all but slate lazy journalism for the last 2 years they can go and fuck themselves until they're proven right

Be the best thing that every happens to the club if Garde is forced to come in now and work with the coaching staff we have so he can tell Ashley et al the fucking script.

that video :lol: scruffy bastards. Fucking video has me in tears

This Palace gig is so predictable. He'll have a honeymoon period and probably keep them up but in the next 1-2 seasons they'll either be down or he'll be sacked before he takes them down at which point it'll be the fact he wasn't given enough 'quality'

"Pardew did a decent job as Newcastle manager in difficult circumstances. He was never as bad a manager as some claimed, but neither was he has good as he thought he was." wrong, wrong, wrong.

If he's given more games consecutively he'll come good, needs to settle and get used to playing without the noose around his neck I like the look of him

We are fucked could be messy this in all honesty

not sure i agree with this necessarily as we'd never heard it before pardew came along - i'd be inclined to think pardew's incessant negativity probably influenced ashley etc. and let's not forget the extent to which he blamed the UEFA cup for us nearly getting relegated, it was after that that the cups really 'officially' became a non-priority iirc a positive manager could quite easily turn it around like

Yup couldn't agree more mate.

Imagine if the opposite happens though, the media and our idiot fans will be insufferable i can't entertain that possibility

if we get a good manager like this it's imperative he hits the ground running like, if for nothing else than to show the press and wider football world how shite pardew actually was combined with a palace relegation being the obvious preference

He ticks a shitload of not Pardew boxes like, I'd be rather happy if we ended up with this lad as I think he'll get a lot from Cabella for a start and generally speaking would most likely have a good relationship with Carr and be able to play the players we sign in the right places.

I'm amazed if it's true. Jesus imagine if was a taste of the future without Ashley meddling in things and making an utter cunt of everything all the time

But why, it's a fact, they do sometimes get it wrong ah but rape yeah so nobody is allowed to speak rationally. They get some wrong and this is a very unique case where a man was convicted entirely without physical evidence or even an eye witness statement against him It's very clear there's scope to think this might have been a duff decision.

Isn't he really just saying that perceptions of guilt and innocence aren't always set in stone for eternity. It's an emotive example and poorly chosen I suppose but it is from football... Reactions remind me of the rape stuff Wullie was saying before - "zomg he's saying Evans is the same as the Hillsborough victims, burn him". He's not saying that at all.

Garde seems to be a very good fit for us on a number of levels, so it probably won't be him.

Arthur Cox was manager of Chesterfield before he became our manager and Kevin Keegan had spent 8 years on the golf course on the Costa Del Sol and had no managerial experience whatsoever when he became our manager. KK even admitted that he'd been out of the game for so long he had to spend time learning about the game again and finding out who he knew who was still in the game and could trust. Everyone has to start somewhere and not every top manager starts at the top either. you're talking about taking the guy from exeter and putting him in charge of a club that is in the top 20 (still?) in europe man* the examples are not comparable wonder if arsenal will be taking the manager from TNS to replace wenger when he goes? that said you're right in principle aye You do know which league Wenger came from to manage Arsenal don't you? sure, after managing 2 clubs in france he spent a year in japan before being pulled to lahndan what's your point? EDIT: Wasn't aware Wenger won the title with Monaco and Bayern Munich tried to take him prior to him going to Japan. But aye let's get the lad from Exeter.

I thought he (Evans) was at home, his mate called him saying he had pulled this lass. Evans drove to the hotel and took over. Isn't there CCTV footage of her being totally smashed and barely able to walk?? they were out together that night but evans and mcdonald got split up after leaving wherever they were, there was some bother involving another of their mates or something so almost certainly he'll have had a drink in him

aye she might, but she can't remember so she doesn't know 2 witnesses say she did 1 witness (porter) said he heard her partaking in the act Yeah but I'm saying its entirely possible to consent with one and not the other. The point is not whether or not she consented, but whether or not she was in a fit state to consent. The jury has decided she was in a fit state consent to bloke A, but not to bloke B. correct, also worth bearing in mind that she'd have consented to A earlier in the night when her intoxication level would have been higher (albeit fractionally i guess)

aye she might, but she can't remember so she doesn't know 2 witnesses say she did 1 witness (porter) said he heard her partaking in the act

No, as i said above, that is not what he is saying at all. Of course opinion gets involved. It almost always does in legal cases. It is an opinion formed after seeing all the evidence, listening to questioning, and applying the law as exists. That's how juries work, too. That is how the legal system works. There is a massive difference between a few people discussing a legal case on a football forum, and a court of law with a judge and jury. A high court judge, a jury, having sat through the trial, having seen all the evidence, decided that Evans was guilty "beyond all reasonable doubt". As did the second judge who rejected the appeal. His comments also don't suggest it has "all come down to his personal opinion", either. He was found guilty by a jury. My point about it coming down to opinion is that there is no (as far as I'm aware) single solid piece of evidence that suggests guilt. It comes down to things like the CCTV footage which are open to individual interpretation. I'm not doubting the jury or their decision, they wouldn't have taken the task lightly, but I don't believe there's anything to suggest that the decision is 100% correct, without any doubt. It seems impossible given the evidence. If there was something I've missed then fair enough. FWIW I'm not saying that I think he's innocent, or that he shouldn't have served his sentence once found guilty. I just cannot ever be 100% sure despite the jury's verdict. i honestly can't see how you get to "reasonable doubt" when it's essentially a case of 2 people's word against each other - he said she consented, she said she doesn't remember a thing which cannot be verified but that statement in itself (plus some selected CCTV footage i guess) led a jury to decide that she was unable to consent it's lucky people don't lie i suppose, otherwise we'd need evidence and shit

i think the important thing is not the post-sentencing comments but his remarks to the jury before he sent them away to decide in that ED209 link

yet the CCTV footage from the hotel showing her not looking pissed and walking around fine enough should just be ignored, even though time-wise it is closer to the incident in question than when she was looking more pissed You've just totally ignored the point about the cctv footage and decided "she looks alright to me" and on the basis of that, Evans has been unfairly treated? Christ, no wonder rape is such a sensitive subject. sorry? what i'm saying is the judge has chosen, has he not, to refer to CCTV footage that shows the lass is too intoxicated to consent to sex - this footage is from earlier on, in the footage closer to the incident in question (immediately before i'd imagine) she doesn't look particularly pissed but that doesn't support the idea that she couldn't consent bear in mind the only evidence against evans is really his own admission of intercourse and the CCTV footage (to my knowledge) plus the lass saying she didn't remember a thing, which is the crux obvs

yet the CCTV footage from the hotel showing her not looking pissed and walking around fine enough should just be ignored, even though time-wise it is closer to the incident in question than when she was looking more pissed