mrmojorisin75

I can't get past the idea that the lack of progress so far is down to the fact that Carr, Ashley and Charnley are still sitting staring with absolute incredulity at a chreque for £3m quid that someone has just handed them to take Pardew away

Is this not the problem though? As had been pointed out 20,000 people signed to keep him out of Oldham and they have gates of 4,000 or whatever. What do the fans have to do with it then? As regards the Lee Hughes and other fella example of them being allowed to resume their careers because they showed remorse - aye, well, they fucking did it beyond a shadow of doubt so they should be remorseful. Apparently though in the social media age nailed on murder + remorse < flimsy rape conviction + no fake remorse

This is it for me. As for the idea that he's being hounded from every job opportunity because of how he phrases things is fucking ludicrous tbh. Saying "my infidelity" is stupid but it's not the reason he's being hunted down at every opportunity. He's at the centre of a massive witch hunt, there's nothing else to it. Every single interview I hear about the case involving someone from a group that campaigns against rape and violence against women etc specifically refers to the fact that he's shown no remorse or made any sort of apology. It's almost always the first thing they say in response to the question about whether he should be given a second chance. Like it or not, there are clearly a lot of emotions riding on what he has said since being convicted. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the people who are trying to stop him from playing football. The law has established a sentence to fit the crime: if a person has served his time, that should be the end of it. I don't want to live in a society where certain crimes force people to become "untouchables" living on the margins of society for the rest of their lives. If he wants to claim that he was innocent, that's his right. If he wants to act like a complete knobhead, that's his right as well. If anyone should have a say in whether he gets to sign for Oldham or not, it should probably be the Oldham fans.

This is it for me. As for the idea that he's being hounded from every job opportunity because of how he phrases things is fucking ludicrous tbh. Saying "my infidelity" is stupid but it's not the reason he's being hunted down at every opportunity. He's at the centre of a massive witch hunt, there's nothing else to it. Every single interview I hear about the case involving someone from a group that campaigns against rape and violence against women etc specifically refers to the fact that he's shown no remorse or made any sort of apology. It's almost always the first thing they say in response to the question about whether he should be given a second chance. Like it or not, there are clearly a lot of emotions riding on what he has said since being convicted. It's just wrong man. If he did come out and say something about how sorry he was that would instantly be used against him too. I'm firmly on the lads side like, imo he has been and continues to be utterly shafted. Really hope it gets overturned.

If that's the case, then when the law changes to reflect that, Ched's in the clear. If you are not capable of consenting and someone takes advantage of your condition, it is rape. What is required for consent though? If she was passed out drunk or force was involved then obviously that should constitute rape, but I don't think the law should extend to protecting people who make decisions they regret whilst p*ssed. It's all very dodgy ground especially when someone is going to serve time and be labeled as a rapist for the rest of their life, giving the connotations surrounding the term. I have a genuine question on this (not trying to be provocative, honest.) My understanding is that it is a man's responsibility to judge whether the woman in his hotel room- or wherever- is too drunk to be making a sound judgement about what she is doing and stop things from progressing if so. Does this still apply if the man is also extremely intoxicated and too drunk to either get this judgement right, or more likely not to think of stopping to think that a judgement needs to be made before carrying on with what they are doing? It seems possible that there could be a situation where two people get equally wasted, have drunken sex and one of them is open to being convicted of rape if the other later decides they regret it? That seems pretty worrying to me. I'm not saying that's what happened in the room, and not particularly pro or anti Evans' position in this whole scenario (as a person he comes across as an absolute knob mind), just wondered if anyone on here knows what the legal position on this is? The conviction was diabolical tbh, to be calling the lad a rapist on the basis of the evidence is harsh beyond measure imo. It's fucked really. Imagine you met some person on a night out, you were utterly slaughtered and decided to give them 200 quid. You wake up in the morning with no recollection of what happened at all so go to the police due to the missing money. There is no evidence to say you were robbed but someone decides that the person you gave the money to should have known how drunk you were and not taken it therefore he goes down for robbery or something. I know the example is not comparable and I'm not belittling rape and the emotional aspect or anything but the lad was totally fucked over from what I can see based on evidence presented publicly. According to his website there was nothing else we've not seen that was presented during the trial either. They can't really lie about that I'd imagine either. But aye, he doesn't speak in a contrite way about it so let's continue to ruin his life

This is it for me. As for the idea that he's being hounded from every job opportunity because of how he phrases things is fucking ludicrous tbh. Saying "my infidelity" is stupid but it's not the reason he's being hunted down at every opportunity. He's at the centre of a massive witch hunt, there's nothing else to it.

well if we're going to get technical he's not served his time, he's out on probation and is on it for another 30 months. Still served time inside required, isn't prohibition all about the final part of rehabilitation? http://www.geekbinge.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/BWE-4.12-Nucky-gun.jpg

survived the biggest financial meltdown of our lifetime in the job no less

We might even try, but we'll want him for nowt if we do

Suppose it's not quite right to say none of us think we can get him like, obviously some of us do

could easily get him, compo will be fuck all Unless Mainz utterly hate the guy and won't let him work anywhere he's got to be attainable like: lol: Nah fuck it, better go for Lawrie Sanchez just in case

Look at where we are Palace have just paid us 3.5m to take our manager but not one of us think we could get Tuchel who has less than 6 months on his contact and isn't being paid by his club. How much could the compensation possibly be? Sad state of affairs.

I'd be interested in that Clement fella like, learned from the best over an extended period of time, could be a great gamble to take.

been in the job a couple of days, no time to put his stamp on things yet

no cunt has a clue who we're going for, but we have to hope carr is running the show basically....saw something before saying carr and charnley had "free reign" which might work

would be just like fucking pardew to start attacking like fuck now and go on to win the cup absolute maximum pissing on our chips we'd probably get relegated too

Dear God no.

People are crackers mojo. Career win Ratio of 40% Hasn't managed for almost 10 years I'm assuming it's a piss take like, anyone really thinking he'd be a decent appointment must be demented.

Hoddle People advocating him while turning noses up at McLaren? (Not the same people probs) His last notable spell as a manager was in 1998 wasn't it?

if carr has a say it's not going to be carver, let's look at the glass half full option fucking carver man, fills me with dread, not least because a lot of our soopafans would probably want to stick with him a long as possible 'cause he's a geordie...that really worries me, that ashley knows our fan base inside out

if we get a good coach () this kid is going score for fucking fun and all, he needs to be on an improved contract at the end of the season for sure probably with some ludicrous buyout clause, ludicrous high i mean

If it is arsenal I hope we insist on a player or two from their youth/reserves as id'd by Carr. Something like that might a sale more tolerable.

Starting to hope Sherwood takes the job, flies out of the blocks, we start pelting teams left, right and centre, fans love Sherwood and he wins the first trophy for years starting a decade of good times for NUFC. Then when he decides to leave for the England job in 2025 the press will be able to wheel out southerner-hating clichés once again the pack of lazy twats.

Yesterday proved Carver to the end of the season would be an absolute disaster tbh