mrmojorisin75

if we want to i'm sure an agreement could be reached on the valuation based on clauses etc. doubt we want to mind

I like you as a poster and you know that but sometimes you post without thinking . Wilmots was given the job because he's one of the most respected players to grace the Belgian football. He has a huge respect and is the hero of many of the guys on the team as they grew up watching him. He did a fantastic job with them during the qualifiers and friendlies since he took over. His Belgium side had one of the best performances in the WC when they played the US. He only lost to Argentina due to a single goal. To take his old achievements and pedigree as football manager and condemn his achievements with the national side is ridiculous. His win percentage as a manager for Belgium is the highest ever with the national team. I mean van Gaal didn't qualify Netherlands with a pretty good team to the 2002 World Cup. He also had a terrible return to Barcelona after that if I'm not mistaken, or did he resign from that? Just because a manager has failed at one job doesn't make him a bad manager, I disagree regarding Wilmots. Holland appointed Rijkaard (EC 2000) and Van Basten (WC 2008, EC 2010) in a similar situation: both highly respected (ex) players without any relevant management experience. They both failed to deliver. Argentina did it with Maradonna and it didn't work out. I can't really think of any successful NT manager without at least some experience at top club level. In my humble opinion a great football (and I'm not even sure Wilmots is that) does not a great international manager make. You're basically saying the appointment is rubbish despite his record speaking for itself. Quarter-finals is what everyone expected and they played Argentina and lost. I didn't once say that a great football player makes a great international manager, but his stature in Belgian football has helped gain respect from players in a team that before used to be completely split into two camps. I'm not saying he's an excellent manager, I'm just saying that you're condemning his ability based on what he's done in the past and not present. i'm with unbelievable on this one, called it before the tourament that a better manager could take belgium close to winning it...and by that i mean a van gaal or someone england are proof that being great in qualifiers means f*** all Belgium beat every team except Argentina, how is that bad? If they beat Argentina they could easily have gone on close to winning it. Some people don't seem to realize that tiny details can change everything. If Netherland don't score a 45th minute equalizer against Spain or get a wrongly allowed 3-1 goal against Spain they might not have gone through their group, if Brazil doesn't get help from Nishimura we might've lost every game as well. There are tiny tiny details that change games in World Cup. Wilmots had his team get through the group on 9p, 3 of them coming from behind in an opener against a team that played extremely well against Germany, another 3p against a Russian side that isn't bad at all and another 3p with 10men on the pitch for majority of the game. I'm not comparing van Gaal to Wilmots historically, but van Gaal has fucked up in international football as well when he failed to qualify for the 2002 WC, so nothing says he'd be certain to do a better tournament then Wilmots with the Belgian side. well the key test of a quality manager is when you come up against someone good isn't it? belgium looked horribly functional and one-dimensional every time i saw them and their results appear to back that up don't they? argentina were very poor on the day and lost one of their 2 best players early in the game but belgium never really got near them depsite the quality of player they have....the inclusion of fellaini and playing him like a roaming striker was absolutely fucking laughable tbh

I like you as a poster and you know that but sometimes you post without thinking . Wilmots was given the job because he's one of the most respected players to grace the Belgian football. He has a huge respect and is the hero of many of the guys on the team as they grew up watching him. He did a fantastic job with them during the qualifiers and friendlies since he took over. His Belgium side had one of the best performances in the WC when they played the US. He only lost to Argentina due to a single goal. To take his old achievements and pedigree as football manager and condemn his achievements with the national side is ridiculous. His win percentage as a manager for Belgium is the highest ever with the national team. I mean van Gaal didn't qualify Netherlands with a pretty good team to the 2002 World Cup. He also had a terrible return to Barcelona after that if I'm not mistaken, or did he resign from that? Just because a manager has failed at one job doesn't make him a bad manager, I disagree regarding Wilmots. Holland appointed Rijkaard (EC 2000) and Van Basten (WC 2008, EC 2010) in a similar situation: both highly respected (ex) players without any relevant management experience. They both failed to deliver. Argentina did it with Maradonna and it didn't work out. I can't really think of any successful NT manager without at least some experience at top club level. In my humble opinion a great football (and I'm not even sure Wilmots is that) does not a great international manager make. You're basically saying the appointment is rubbish despite his record speaking for itself. Quarter-finals is what everyone expected and they played Argentina and lost. I didn't once say that a great football player makes a great international manager, but his stature in Belgian football has helped gain respect from players in a team that before used to be completely split into two camps. I'm not saying he's an excellent manager, I'm just saying that you're condemning his ability based on what he's done in the past and not present. i'm with unbelievable on this one, called it before the tourament that a better manager could take belgium close to winning it...and by that i mean a van gaal or someone england are proof that being great in qualifiers means fuck all

my only hope is ashley gets pissed and meets a decent manager in a pub or something, gets a bit starstruck and decides to jettison pardew in favour of his new mate

look on the bright side lads, the longer we drag out an agreement on this the more it distracts everyone from the 2 strikers we need to buy in order to score any goals next season

hate weird alignments of sponsor/crest like that sunderland shirt, just absolutely awful

Gonna be impressive to watch him play RM[sammy], RB [anita], DM[tiote cause no-one wants to buy him], and AM[colback] at the same time. piece of piss man

where's that it's all coming up colback post from before? that'll be why we signed colback, to cover for the multitude of positions we're going to sell this summer all being well

each ST purchased should come with a free spoon to be honest, some people apparently like being fed shit and eating it so a spoon would be helpful i imagine

any italian teams need a keeper? atletico might fancy him if they can't loan courtois again....

get the impression we might do more than one of these this summer, gets players in to placate the morons and requires minimal financial input

I hope this is a joke! You have basically compared him to hitler he must be about 2 years old as i seem to recall something happening at the back end of the last decade as a direct result of "greed and disregard for human life" that is still having repercussions to this day then again the banks just ended up taking away people's houses, jobs, savings and ultimately lives, they didn't make saturday afternoons at SJP a bit miserable so i see where he's going with the point impressive typing for a toddler though Sort yourself out boy, maybe it was an ill advised choice of words, I don't liken him to Hitler or the Iron Lady, but he is a selfish, greedy cunt with a complete disregard to anything but his own pocket and it's not just about NUFC it's about his fat fingers being in all those pies and squeezing every penny he can out of them for a bank balance no one could spend in a lifetime. Yet he wants more and he treats it like every penny is his last. So don't patronise or condescend me because I hold him in the same disregard, "2 years old" "like a toddler" grow up little man. You made an utterly ridiculous statement so I took the piss a bit

wonder why we've not demanded a straight swap for campbell? would make too much sense i suppose

hope there's a gif of the black lass in the belgium gear that came on the telly

I hope this is a joke! You have basically compared him to hitler he must be about 2 years old as i seem to recall something happening at the back end of the last decade as a direct result of "greed and disregard for human life" that is still having repercussions to this day then again the banks just ended up taking away people's houses, jobs, savings and ultimately lives, they didn't make saturday afternoons at SJP a bit miserable so i see where he's going with the point impressive typing for a toddler though

said before in this thread if it goes down to 2 games then i'd fancy robben to have a massive, massive say in this world cup....the dutch are able to play in a way that makes enough space for him to do his things, the argies are nowhere near mastering this for messi and he's really suffering (again) to be honest best thing the argies could do imo would be move messi out to the right wing

Wouldn't make a difference mate. This c*** owns the club lock stock and barrell and other than holding a gun to his head and making him sell it we are screwed. Nah, if something like Sterling happened I'd have to believe premier league would step in. They have the fit and proper test thing for a reason i doubt they would be ok with racist owners. The premier league can't do anything to him. We aren't a franchise and he can't be made to relinquish control of the club aren't the club licenced by the FA and league or something? who runs the fit and proper ownership test? i'm pretty fucking sure if he was proven to be a flaming racist and they wanted to the FA and PL could get him out, it's the "if they wanted to" part that would be the sticking point

get a fucking grip man

She must be hard up, sexually and financially - and he must be desperate. he'll have been knawing away to get back in her knickers the moment he had to pay her the 50m divorce settlement, remarry her and bring the cash back into the fold

hopefully one of those fires during a refuelling and the king is stood in the wrong place, doesn't have to die or anything, maybe just enough to melt the skin around his mouth and close it up so we never have to listen to his shit again

just watched a YT clip of the foul, would have been a harsh yellow for me tbh...they happen all the time, neymar just very unlucky, i'm not having that zuniga went out to hurt him

When did he ever say that like?

can't believe that side might end up in a WC semi like, must have busted fuckloads of predictors (mine inc.)

if holland win tonight and it comes down to 2 games i'd not bet against robben having a massive say in this world cup, he's a cheating diving cunt but he's also one of the most effective match winners left in the tournament....unlike messi no-one can touch him anywhere near the box and i think every defender knows it now