mrmojorisin75

i agree it's too much just now but all the signs are there for the way it's gonna go with pardew like, kid yourself all you want

here's my revised take on things, pretty football aside we're 6th at the moment and assuming 7th gets us europe we have an 8 point lead over norwich the current nearest contenders for that spot (i'm not counting liverpool) we have 12 games left, only 4 of which are against teams either above us or liverpool for me how we got to this point doesn't matter, if we're not in europe next season he'll have fucked up...you can't credit the guy for early form and then let him off the hook if he can't sustain it assume we get nothing from the 4 "big team" games, that leaves him 8 games to not lose an 8 point lead

They have eyes and see what we see. I don't think for one minute that they shelled out up to £10 million in the last transfer window to drop down the league. well, the only chance of that happening is that they're clearly not "football people", "football people" would stick with pardew until it all went wrong (and i think it will eventually go wrong with him) but MA & DL are not entrenched in that whole thing however, i do think that they've got a manager doing whatever they want and mouthpiecing their decisions, unless they've suddenly decided their end game is now to make us a successful football team i see no way they'll ship pards unless he really screws the pooch

what on earth leads you to this conclusion?

Why should that be the case? Does the same apply to Simpson for instance who should be upgraded? i'm not saying i want it to be the case, i'm saying it will be with MA as owner - haven't they stated top half is their target? if so, bearing in mind they bagged hughton to bring their man in, why would they get shot? they don't give a shit about aesthetics

isn't all this moot? if he gets us top half and even exceeds that by getting us in europe he'll be staying, we should all get used to that imo

He's a one trick pony who has lucked himself into a job and for the first half of the season he lucked himself through games which we didn't deserve to get points from. We were getting points because Ba was getting goals from nothing when the service to him was poor yet he still managed to pull balls from behind him to bury when realistically he shouldn’t have had a chance. Our football has for much of the time been turgid dross but we’ve got away with it by going to places like QPR and lucking a draw. He’s lucked his way to getting a point at home against Spurs when he brought on the same stroller as he did yesterday but Stroller managed a goal. Our performances are now getting the kind of results that we deserved earlier in the season and instead of turning nothing performances into points, we’re starting to go the other way and turning fortunate positions into negative results. Our football under Pardew has been poor because that’s the way he likes to play football. We have good players who are watching the ball fly past them as the ball goes from back to front with one big hoof. The players who could control games are being bypassed for much of the game. The amount of money spent isn't a reflection on the type of players we've brought in. We've spent low and still managed to bring in quality because unlike Pardew, Carr is actually good at his job and we've benefited from that in as much as we have good players, even if the manager doesn't know how to get the best out of them. Can you list these good performances that you mention? spurs,man utd, villa away, stoke. the tactics aren't all hoofball. first half v fulham was as good as i've seen us actually play but with little end product due to the forwards we had playing. yesterday for some reason pardew decided to go long and it failed, can't really say it's a seaqson long tactic, bit like the high line we ALWAYS play. Is there anything which leads you to believe Pardew has a style of football? Personally I believe it changes depending on the personnel on the pitch whether we pass it or hoof it long. The general instruction just seems to be to solid at the back so we end up with two holding midfielders and and wide players who also have to be more mindful of defensive duties than offensive. Some continental teams also set up this way but they pass their way out of defence and counter quickly. We usually hump it high towards Ba or Cisse. i think it depends as much on the opposition and yesterday he got it badly wrong. knowing the way sunderland play i doubt we'll be going long as much next week. Why is it do you think Cabaye ends up sitting deep alongside Tiote in most every game and against all opposition? Personally I think it contributes a lot towards hoofball when midfielders don't link up with the forwards. i remember early doors in the season when cabaye was pushing on right up behind the strikers (villa away springs to mind), he/we looked like we had the potential to really play football and hurt teams, no coincidence people were rating cabaye then and now noone is talking about him anymore that's been coached out of him, he came from a title winning champions team after all

don't think he knows how

It's only right midfield where he even had a decision, no? Aye, and he played the most defensive minded player there, a player with no ability to play pass and move football. We were sent out to play a game of hoofball, unacceptable at home to a team as poor as Wolves IMO. and this is what every fucker predicted as well before the game, horseshit man still we're 6th eh? everyone shut up - what happens when we're not 6th anymore?

such as? "poor poor manager" ah

such as?

we'll still be 6th at the end of the game so he's automatically exempt from any criticism don't forget

don't know this will end but he deserves 7 kinds of shit for the 2nd half performance...team playing like the game was won and awful timing of substitutions from him

3-0 down vs. WBA then...ok, let's be having you!

that's almost be better than them all calling it SJP on purpose, all of them call it the wrong direct arena

love papisto man, he knows where the fucking goal is alright

just saying, in 27 minutes everyone's looked decent and contributed more than raylor...i simply can't see what he's doing that hba OR obertan for example couldn't do He's playing in a game where we've got a strong side out against a shite team basically. You could swap Danny Simpson with Taylor and I doubt you'd notice the difference. yeah i get that, but while i'd stop short of saying we're winning 2-0 with ten men it's not far off tbh...in fairness both simpson and raylor have been quiet, raylor slightly more so...everyone else on the pitch has been much more involved

just saying, in 27 minutes everyone's looked decent and contributed more than raylor...i simply can't see what he's doing that hba OR obertan for example couldn't do

just like to say that 27 minutes into the wolves match ryan taylor @ RW might as well not have existed, has contributed nothing offensively or defensively totally and utterly anonymous

commentator on this stream keeps calling it the first direct arena

you're either joking, or brass eye is back on the telly

Quote of 2012 for me.

I was about to ask this. Does that basically mean that Rangers will see no income from the next 24m sales of season tickets or whatever then? Or does administration render that void. If so can see ticketus wanting a word with Whyte.

in the wider context results are all important imo, right now none of us can argue that much with pards in the wider context as he's got us very high in the table - that's his job so far he's always bounced back from defeats/short bad runs...if or when he is unable to get the team bouncing back and he's still got hba sitting on the bench that's the time questions can and should be seriously asked imo people can point to spurs or fulham, but then pards would (rightly) point to results like manyoo to vindicate himself