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i think Lennons really good to be honest, id have him at nufc in a flash, his main weakness though is his final ball, which seems to be a problem with a lot of our players. He gets himself into some fantastic positions thouhg and i dont think there are many full backs inthe premiership who arent wary of him he canskin them all. Would have him or Quaresma here in a flash, would prefer them to SWP.

You must have watched a different Rozehnal to me, he was shocking, much worse than Butt. I thought he was good tonight, won alot of posession and kept the ball moving, made some good passes kept his position well as well.

Hope so, part of me really wants Lua Lua to really flourish on the wing, but part of me wants to see a big signing on the right. Think i'll opt for Kazenga though, he reminds me of Lennon, didnt really get chance to see much of him though, hope he does turn out to be lennon esque. Would be brilliant.

Exactly, he's the type of player Keegan would love.

I dont think there will be any surprises here, Bridge, SWP and Defoe sound about right. To be honest, would only want SWP, he'd play in a key position for us, not sure if his final ball is any good though. Wouldnt mind seeing a bit of a surprise though.

The fact that he's not good enough for the top 6 has absolutely no bearing at the moment because 1. He's ours right now, like it or not. 2. Nobody will have him. 3. We're not going to be sitting anywhere near the top six for a while. So as long as he's ours and non-saleable, why not use him when we have to and give him credit when he preforms to the best of his (limited) abilities. I certainly wouldn't rather stick in a 19 year old who wasn't good enough for a Championship bottom side, much less the top six. Dont get me wrong, i dont blame him for anything, i just think hes not good enough full stop, what he produces not is probably the best we'll ever see from him, he is a very limited player, i dont see the point intrying to defend or attack him to be fair because he's not a player we should be looking to take us forward and therefore hasnt let the side down. If Owen recived the same amount of possession as Shola did i would attck him because he is someone we should be looking ot, especially as captain.

You can defend Shola as much as you like for his individual performances, but the bottom line is that he doesnt have the ability to make it into any of the top 6, so shouldnt be good enough for us.

If allardyces team produced that would you be happy? Im not happy, very dissappoint to be honest, no reflection on Keegan or anything, theres nothing more frustrating than having a team come and get 10 men behind the ball. Fair play to Bolton they stuck to a game plan and were successful, they had no intention of winning the game. Second half was good to be honest, thought both roz was very good, also thought Zog had his moments, Duff was running out of ideas, didnt have the space he needed, i still believe that Zog ould make it in the centre, his direct running is very dangerous, it will open up spaces against teams who look to play football. Milner is not good enough for the first team in my opinion, wasted alot of posession which came his way, his crossing isnt good enough and and times he can slow up play by cutting inside. Owen was invisible today. Shola is another one who isnt good enough, like a poor version of crouch in my opinion, rarely see him without a marker, he doesnt seem to be capable of shaking off him man. Link up play is ok but shouldnt get in the side once Viduka is back. Defence was quite good today, Cacapa i thought was pretty good, seemed assured and surprisingly strong, didnt get dominated in the slightest today against arguable one of the most physical strikersin the league. Enrique was very good in my opinion, no one got past him, made some excellent runs as well, maybe a bit more of his attacking side that could be improved. Taylor didnt have much to do, and Carr wasnt gbad to be fair, he supported Milner well, wasted a bit of possession in key areas defensively no real trouble.

When you give the other team the time to get 9 men behind the ball then you can't complain when they do. Our passing is so pedestrian and our running so uninspired and slow that I imagine Megson can't believe his luck. The poor lads are still traumatised by seeing so many long bombs fly over their heads over the past 8 months. They havent given us any space to exploit in the first place though, agree with the lackof imaginative and placid runninh and movement, we dont have any guile.

It doesnt help that Bolton literally have 9/10 man behind the ball at all time. We arent really putting any pressureon them though, Roz looks quitegood in midfiled, ,Zog doesnt have the space he needs in the centre, maybe more effective out wide after all.

Such as? A defensive midfielder, a ball playing centre back, and a younger, faster Viduka. Our midfield defintitely needs addressing, i agree with you about the need of a DM, without a shadow of a doubt, a creative midfilder is useless without possession and i dont thin k our DM are good enough to provide adequate protection of our defense or good enough and mobile enough to regain possesion. To be honest, my priority would actually be DM, RW then AM. Dont think we need a striker yet, we have a very good blend and a lot of variety, we have plenty of ball playing defenders as well.

Not tryin to put a dampner on things, but physically that isnt a great side, Zog and Roz in the centre could quite easily get over run.

is Roz the only "CM" we have? Looks like it'll be Roz and Zog in the centre, i cant see any other combination. This might not be as straight forward as it looks. Roz isnt the most disciplined positional wise.

So do i, it would be horrible if we were to lose, that would put such a massive downer on us. I dont wanna go back to reality, i dont wanna wake up and realise that we still have big sam in charge.

I honestly dont think we need a striker now, maybe one on loan like Saviola but no one permanent just yet, would rather the money went on midfilders, especially our right wing and a DM. Shame we missed out on Diarra, think he could of been just what we needed.

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He naturally likes to move into the centre when hes on the wing anyways, i just think he could be more effective inthe centre with the type of strikers we have. Hes not been brilliant in hte centre in the past but i think hes matured alot recently. Wasnt he moved into the centre when GR took over after souness? Stick an extra competent DM behind him and i think he could be excellent with a bit of coaching. EDIT: Dont get me wrong i think he's very very good on the left, but it hink his skill could be utilised more in the centre where he would be more effective in the cnetre.

I think his best position is in the centre, i like his direct running, he draws out defenders which gives forwards more space, he is very good on the left but with the strikers at our club i dont think his talent would be best used on the wing.

To be fair, the genrally accpeted populus view is 1000 million = 1 billion. Northern rock havent just taken a 25 million million pound loan from the Bank of England. More like 25 thousand million.

Fully agree. +1 would rather that £10m go on a different position, i think we have a lot of variety up front (im including Smith in this as well). Would like the money go on the wing and CM to be honest.

I guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree, i think the "containing mentality" used at alot of clubs is a prime example of the change in mentality in football. I think the current use of 433 throughout Europe is another example of change. If you as well as others are saying that football hasnt changed then you're directly advoacting that managers of the past would be just as successful then as they are now, even with the minor changes that your're intimating. Its alot more than physical in my book. err.........yes. Exactly. You can't do more than be the best of your era. Are you advocating that Bill Shankly and Brian Clough wouldn't be the top managers if they were still around today in their prime ? And in the playing sense, George Best wouldn't be an outstanding talent ? I used Pallister and Bruce as an example, against the likes of Ferdinand and Vidic, as an example of the changes in the football, for the same team. Madras picked out possibly the 2 best defender inthe historyof world football. i dont think that that illustrated my point too well. Absoltuley i agree that they were the best of there era, but im saying that maybe there styles of management wouldnt be as successfull now as it was then, can you definitively say it would? Im intimating that with all the chnges in footbal that i see there style of management, the same style which made, Dalglish, Souness even Howard Wilkinson successful , wont work nowadays. Its a differing opinion, if you dont accept it or understand it (for the 15th time) just ignore it and move on.

Highly unlikely, but I would lose it if Quaresma was signed. I think id do a sex wee in my pants.

I hate that "would rather win the FA cup..." quote with a passion. To be fair though, Keegan has been spouting that "win with style thing aswell"

I guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree, i think the "containing mentality" used at alot of clubs is a prime example of the change in mentality in football. I think the current use of 433 throughout Europe is another example of change. If you as well as others are saying that football hasnt changed then you're directly advoacting that managers of the past would be just as successful then as they are now, even with the minor changes that your're intimating. Its alot more than physical in my book.

i'd take maldini in his prime or baresi over vidic ,terry or carhvallo. So you'd take some of the worlds greatest ever? Yeh so would i i think. you chose some of the best in the world of todays football. i chose 2 of the best from the past 20 years....seems fair to me 20 years, or ever? I thought that they were a reflection of the changes in football, in the EPL in particular. Im just someone who thinks that football has changed alot, primarily the way we think about football and to an extent the way a team plays. ~I thougt we werent talking a bout the past.