Mattoon

That is exactly where I am right now Yorkie, after January and seeing our players coming back there was a glimmer of hope he could turn it around and I was happy to persevere but after THAT display on Sunday he's completely lost me. It's taken me until now to come back on here and articulate how I feel without filling the page with obseneties! How can a manager not enjoy any sort of success with this crop of players? I've a feeling he'll get at the very least until Christmas but if he's to be replaced we need to give someone a full preseason to get us going again.

Like I said, I think it's the general opinion that stability breeds success, I.e Alex Ferguson et al and I also think that given what happened with him historically may lead to Pardew being given more time yet. Agreed stability does bring a modecum of success, you can see that with teams like Arsenal and Man U but would anyone put Pardew on an equal footing with Wenger or Ferguson? You need a decent manager as well as stability. Chelsea and Man City have a history of removing managers due to a few bad results, and in that sense I agree, they've had some amazing managers they've binned because they've only won one trophy that season, now that's insane.

Good post. Ironically enough given the opinions on here I think one of the things they'd have to contend with if they binned him is fan discontent. Not that I think they give a s***. It's essential that if we do replace him, we replace him well. Ashley has shown he doesn't give a toss who he upsets if he thinks he's making the right decision. Rightly or wrongly we have a reputation for getting on our managers back and I think in some way that has affected people's opinion on Pardew, the constant drilling of the idealism of stability is also a factor. Even taking the above into account though, we're in a rut and Pardew hasn't the tactical nous to bring us out and utilise the strengths of our players, we have one of the strongest midfields in the league on paper but we're being out battled and outplayed by teams of Sunderlands ilk. We're 2 strikers away from having one of the strongest sides I've ever seen in black and white, we're a long way away from that on the pitch and the buck has to stop with Pardew. How do you think we would fair with this team under the late Sir Bobby, so is our current predicament acceptable? I'd say not!

Surely flirting so close to relegation and some embarrassing results, not least of which against our biggest rivals for bragging rights and a minimum expectation of a top 8 finish is enough to bury him?! Agreed its no good sacking him so close to the end of the season whilst being dangerously close to relegation, I think Ashley will have learnt from last time that management changes in this predicament can have serious adverse effects. Once we're safe, we should bin him, there are NO excuses for this season, especially after the purchases made in January, plus even the thickest of football fans can see our players are going backwards in quality at an alarming rate! Even the newest additions such as Sissoko, who looked a beast when he joined is looking jaded, unskilled and disinterested. Rant over, just sick of the shit performances, lack of cohesion, tactics, movement, pressing and marking and sick to death of the constant stream of bullshit we get fed after every match!!

That's exactly what we're doing now now I mean more so without any attempt to play it through midfield. With Carroll he'd have the perfect excuse!

We need his presence in the team, would add a dimension we're currently missing and would score some crucial goals for us. However I'm worried it would fuel Pardews desire for hoofball and iradecate an excellent midfield.

On one hand would love them to go down, on the other would like the opportunity to exact our revenge for the embarrassing shambles we witnessed on Sunday. Hopefully after Pardew gets replaced!

I'd like to say no but I don't wanna lie to you bimpy, I couldn't look myself in the mirror ever again. I just want to see some nice, smile inducing footy. I'm going to get a game of containment, caution and lack of urgency aren't i ? This I don't get, we have the players and the skill to turn it on and really rip a team of this ilk apart, we saw it last season, only a year ago, with less quality players. I'm sick of us playing to nullify the opposition strengths instead of playing to our own. I hope we play with the shackles off and just allow the players to show their mettle, I just don't think I can take the disappointment of thinking we will. We'll see in 60 hours time! Hope I'm wrong but think you're right Pardew !!, his mentality on how the game should be played is why we play how we do. I don't understand why he won't just let loose a bit. He's shown he's capable of allowing for games like the I.e. the arsenal and Manyoo games earlier in the season, we went at them and it nearly paid off, why not against a lesser team? I really hope we smash them, not least because my area manager is a scum supporter. Smash, i like this.....i like this a lot Aye and by smash I mean smash their back doors in, going in dry with as much rippage as possible! Erm.........you scare me. Don't worry Bimpy you're not my type,

I'd like to say no but I don't wanna lie to you bimpy, I couldn't look myself in the mirror ever again. I just want to see some nice, smile inducing footy. I'm going to get a game of containment, caution and lack of urgency aren't i ? This I don't get, we have the players and the skill to turn it on and really rip a team of this ilk apart, we saw it last season, only a year ago, with less quality players. I'm sick of us playing to nullify the opposition strengths instead of playing to our own. I hope we play with the shackles off and just allow the players to show their mettle, I just don't think I can take the disappointment of thinking we will. We'll see in 60 hours time! Hope I'm wrong but think you're right Pardew !!, his mentality on how the game should be played is why we play how we do. I don't understand why he won't just let loose a bit. He's shown he's capable of allowing for games like the I.e. the arsenal and Manyoo games earlier in the season, we went at them and it nearly paid off, why not against a lesser team? I really hope we smash them, not least because my area manager is a scum supporter. Smash, i like this.....i like this a lot Aye and by smash I mean smash their back doors in, going in dry with as much rippage as possible!

I'd like to say no but I don't wanna lie to you bimpy, I couldn't look myself in the mirror ever again. I just want to see some nice, smile inducing footy. I'm going to get a game of containment, caution and lack of urgency aren't i ? This I don't get, we have the players and the skill to turn it on and really rip a team of this ilk apart, we saw it last season, only a year ago, with less quality players. I'm sick of us playing to nullify the opposition strengths instead of playing to our own. I hope we play with the shackles off and just allow the players to show their mettle, I just don't think I can take the disappointment of thinking we will. We'll see in 60 hours time! Hope I'm wrong but think you're right Pardew !!, his mentality on how the game should be played is why we play how we do. I don't understand why he won't just let loose a bit. He's shown he's capable of allowing for games like the I.e. the arsenal and Manyoo games earlier in the season, we went at them and it nearly paid off, why not against a lesser team? I really hope we smash them, not least because my area manager is a scum supporter.

I'd like to say no but I don't wanna lie to you bimpy, I couldn't look myself in the mirror ever again. I just want to see some nice, smile inducing footy. I'm going to get a game of containment, caution and lack of urgency aren't i ? This I don't get, we have the players and the skill to turn it on and really rip a team of this ilk apart, we saw it last season, only a year ago, with less quality players. I'm sick of us playing to nullify the opposition strengths instead of playing to our own. I hope we play with the shackles off and just allow the players to show their mettle, I just don't think I can take the disappointment of thinking we will. We'll see in 60 hours time! Hope I'm wrong but think you're right

I'd like to say no but I don't wanna lie to you bimpy, I couldn't look myself in the mirror ever again.

I'd love for a mauling but can see a Pardew inspired conservative 1-0 we don't score multiple goals in a match anymore.

I'm more terrified about the line-up/game plan than the actual game here. If he goes defensive here he needs his head putting on a pike! However I think he'll be so worried about losing a derby on home soil he'll bottle it and we'll see another game like tonight. Getting pissed for this one!!!

Shame that....... Pffft!!!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Silver lining, out go the spuds!

We need a soon meme

Get the fuck in!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Should be 2-0 by now if only Cisse knew the offside rule!

Ben arfaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!

So that'll be the awesome 4-4-2 again then ffs

Ffs SHOLA!?!??!

Fuck off Schteve you cunt!

Floated set penis to Williamson from throw ins now too, yay!! /sarcasm