Hudson

Even worse, a Phil Collins tune...one of the utterly abysmal ones like Sussussudio. We're definitely in a land of confusion here Just curious if you can feel it coming in the air tonight? Not sure but if this take over happens it will be "Against All Odds"

Can't remember who we sold for money; Hanley and Murphy recouped about £6m I think? But yeah about £30m net seems right. We were that much in credit last summer when Sissoko went. Didn't we get 10-12 million for Thauvin in the summer after his loan spell last season? Don't foget the payments we received from liverpool and Totenham

I see it more of both sides burning their bridges. Ashley waded in first, and Staveley now sticking the knife back in by revealing what her dreams and plans would have been. Yep. It's over. Hopefully she scorched earth's the f***er, got a feeling he's picked the wrong person to try and bullshit. Do you think, he's already managed it against the UK Goverment https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mike-ashley-parliament-committee-recap-8129264

Keep a team up though, low risk cheap option aswell innit

Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Not sure how £300m being a fair price then jumping another £25m is meeting in the middle. Anyway, Considering the £100m min hole in last years finacial figures. I've based this on the lost £77m dropping into the Championship (£115m in the prem v £38m in the champo). Aswell as the £30m million Mike loaned the club due to religation. £250m seems more like a suitable valuation. Things need to be taken into account, First team needs massive investment over the coming years, The Academy needs growing and developing. This alone could be over £500m investment. Until we start to grow commercial that money whould have to come from a Good owner. The future TV deal will only help to swell player prices devouring any increase in income from the deal. So the growth the club needs can only be generated through commercial revinues. If you look at the Everton sale as a rough guide to values. I would say where behind them in terms of squad ability, aswell as the Finch Farm facility and there ability to bring young players through the ranks and sell for profit. There sale was for a 49.9% Stake at a sale price of £175m or £350m for the club. Are we really worth Ashley £380 asking price ?? If you look at the sky subscribers Ashley has his value more than right. Viewers at the match are one of the highest in the league, away fans also, check. Sky subscribers also up there as the best if not the best. Every angle covered. He has run us as a Sports Direct subsidiary like he has with every other company he has done the same thing to when taking over. He does just enough and I wonder how many Rafa's/Managers in his business he has done the same thing to when stepping over them? Yeah don't disagree with the point about the TV money and it's value to Sports Direct. But it has no value to Newcastle united or the Value of club, now if the club received the correct value in sponsorship for hoarding space (value at upto £40m per season)then that would add to the value of the club.

Dunno, like. £300m is a pretty fair price, meet halfway at £325m and everyone goes home happy. I'm no Ashley fan but £250m is a pretty bad offer for NUFC as it stands. Not sure how £300m being a fair price then jumping another £25m is meeting in the middle. Anyway, Considering the £100m min hole in last years finacial figures. I've based this on the lost £77m dropping into the Championship (£115m in the prem v £38m in the champo). Aswell as the £30m million Mike loaned the club due to religation. £250m seems more like a suitable valuation. Things need to be taken into account, First team needs massive investment over the coming years, The Academy needs growing and developing. This alone could be over £500m investment. Until we start to grow commercial that money whould have to come from a Good owner. The future TV deal will only help to swell player prices devouring any increase in income from the deal. So the growth the club needs can only be generated through commercial revinues. If you look at the Everton sale as a rough guide to values. I would say where behind them in terms of squad ability, aswell as the Finch Farm facility and there ability to bring young players through the ranks and sell for profit. There sale was for a 49.9% Stake at a sale price of £175m or £350m for the club. Are we really worth Ashley £380 asking price ??

Yeah thats not going well for them is it. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/06/arsenal-impasse-fans-frustrations-kroenke-usmanov

If we drop down we don’t get another round of parachute payments, instead we get payments structure 2 that we never got because we got promoted. The Premier League changed the rules, of you get relegated from the Premier League multiple times within 5 years then you only get 1 full round of parachute payments instead of the round of parachute payments refreshing every time you do down. It was done to prevent clubs from being satisfied being a yo-yo club and to distribute more money to clubs in the EFL better. Yeah I read that somewhere else, but that would effect the 2018/2019 accounts. The 2016/2017 accounts should make for a fun read. When ever there published , I'm sure holds them back a fair while aswell. Adding 2 + 2 but here goes, $shley's asking price at the start of all this was £400m dropped to £380m very quickly. If you take his orginal purchase price at £283m included debts and loans before 2011, where looking at loses of around £107m this year that's a total investment of around £370m(perhaps last years loses are higher by £10m) Your slap bang in the middle at £370-380m. It's easy to see why the offer of £300m in his mind is a loss to him. Thats not even taking into account profit from his nufc direct sales, and £300m-400m in free advertising over the last 11 years. With the new TV deal due very , I really do think $shley has rolled the dice on Rafa keeping us up with a few lone deals and 1 signing. I hope for a better offer before next season. Only selling us onto the next vulture. Welcome to the Barclays Premier league. f***s Sake Edit for lack of proof reading

Just been reading the Swiss Rable and found this little gem If they were to drop down(in reference to last season), they would get around £38 million TV money in the Championship, including a £35 million parachute payment and £2 million distribution from the Football League, compared to the estimated £115 million in the Premier League, i.e. a £77 million reduction. If i get this right, the accounts are going to show a huge drop in revenue. To the tune of at least a 107m. Suppose it goes some way to PCP's valuation of £300m

Owen was on £120-30k pw. I believe it was revealed when we sued the FA for his injury and bought Martins with the money. Fifa and the FA had been paying £50,000 of Owen's £110,000 weekly wages since he suffered the injury, totalling about £2m for the time he was out of action. As well as the compensation for signing Martins as cover for him, Newcastle had also demanded that Fifa pay his medical bills. The club said last night that the dispute had ended with the settlement. Fifa indicated that the settlement was between £6m and £7m but the Newcastle spokesman said: "Taking into account that [Owen's] wages have now been paid in full and the compensation we have received, it will amount to around £10m." https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/jun/26/newsstory.sport8

Maybe he should try Jeggins

Was talking with a mate about this and we recon that it's been held back to distract attention away from the lack of incomings in the transfer window. After see that tweet about turns out we may have been right.

FYP Rafa wants them Ashley seems to think otherwise, wouldn't you agree ?

Ashley

What is real? At a guess the 2nd bid from Dubai

What's he drinking ?

A) Domestic TV Money (£1.8 billion) The domestic portion of the money will be divided among 20 clubs according to following model. 50% divided equally (Thats around £38 million each for all 20 clubs) 25% Merit based: divided according to final league position in 2016-17 season (Thats around £2 million for 20th place team rising higher by £2m for every position all the way to £24 million for the champiosn) 25% is divided as facility fee: to all clubs depending on how many times teams match was shown live. (thats around £1 million for every live game or guaranteed £10m if a team only had 10 or less live matches) B) Oversees TV Money (around £1 billion) Oversees tv money is divided equally between all 20 clubs and for 2016-17 season all premier league clubs will get around £47 million each from this portion. http://www.totalsportek.com/money/premier-league-prize-money/ Not sure when this gets payed though

Are we due some sort of payment from the PL, sure I read somewhere that we and other clubs got about £50 million in Jan

Mark O'Halleron ‏@AtoutlemondeHD @the_dilsh i bet she is a better defender than steven taylor

Based on what? No other team would want him

Have no idea why i typed that :fool: , I check aswell before i posted as i was not sure http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/3HJBdDxYHvxcfpwqQdtkFBb/anne-robinson

I would imagine he has invested via shares.

Complain to the CMA about this misleading practice, if enough people complain the they will have to do something. https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/competition-and-markets-authority Getting in touch with Anne Diamond Anne Robinson on Watchdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mg74 These are things that are very easy to do and would really hurt Ashely badly, Perhaps AO.com could pick the idea up and run with. They could even go as far as to make a how to.

Well we've been conned plenty of times about this in the past with Ashley, but this time he's actually come out on tv and implied we would be spending big money in order to win something. McClaren might have a chance if that happens but if we just carry on penny pinching he's going to get just as many pelters as Pardew. Aye, summer is the real test imo. Aye summer 2037 when Ashley will be dead

That and the fact Mclaren won't be handed jack shit, it will be a Carr. Considering the fact we have been out spent by all other clubs in the last 2 seasons makes it a even more moronic statement