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good team that, but sub barton off for smith as hes injured, and i can't see martins not playing..

Boro are a weakened side.. i can see oba really giving them some trouble and should win by 2 goals. A draw is not good enough.

Good player.. not good enough for england yet, Robinson was shocking though

Really? Source? not quite sure, my mate who works as the ice-cream man at bilyl bunters told me today while he sprinkled my vanila.. thanks, i will

i heard newcastle are trying to buy faye

Unforunately that applies to most big name players in the twilight of their career. More money and much bigger chance of silverware even if not playing as many games at Chelsea. to put simply, its chelsea.

if its true.. ..this:

SWP in general is massively overrated... played reasonably well though. Thought smith out of all the attackers played best (not saying much tbf).. had some good touches that went unnoticed

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Because Butt can read the game better, break up play without lunging tackles and doesn't give numerous freekicks away every game, Butt also didn't cost £6 million and wasn't a replacement for a player with pace who stretches games. Butt is a DM and does his job well, Smith is a striker/midfielder and does neither job particularly well, to say both players are similar is ridiculous. are you talking about the same butt? I'm talking about nicky, you know, slow as hippo with ankle weights, can only dribble from his mouth and gives the ball away whenever he has it. Both players are playing in the centre of midfield aren't they? so its not too ludicrously far-fetched to compare them- both are grafters, both get in. Smith's passing is better than butts and so's his shooting.. butt is a better tackler. Smith doubling as a striker is irelevent to what i've said. Janitor is talking a lot of sense.

Because Butt can read the game better, break up play without lunging tackles and doesn't give numerous freekicks away every game, Butt also didn't cost £6 million and wasn't a replacement for a player with pace who stretches games. Butt is a DM and does his job well, Smith is a striker/midfielder and does neither job particularly well, to say both players are similar is ridiculous. are you talking about the same butt? I'm talking about nicky, you know, slow as hippo with ankle weights, can only dribble from his mouth and gives the ball away whenever he has it. Both players are playing in the centre of midfield aren't they? so its not too ludicrously far-fetched to compare them- both are grafters, both get in. Smith's passing is better than butts and so's his shooting.. butt is a better tackler. Smith doubling as a striker is irelevent to what i've said.

wouldn't want anelka at all, never mind at the expense of martins parky, just trying to unsettle everyone- trouble-maker

Looks like Martins is being made available for the right price. Dontcha think? he always was.. he's got a release clause

Firstly - Deco: <snigger> Secondly - no-one good enough for the team??? HE'S BEEN PLAYING CARR!!! f****** Carr!!! If he can't find anyone better than THAT, he's a worse manager than i thought. And f*** Premiership experience, a new player has only got to replace f****** CARR!! Agreed. The worrying thing is Allardyce seems to rate Carr in my opinion which isn't good news for us. hasn't done anything blatantly wrong so far... but you just know he'll do something stupid. (carr, just so it's clear) he was s**** against Villa, and THEY were pretty poor. As he did whenever he's played for us in the past, he'll get raped off decent teams. Tbf he just didn't have the pace.. Anyway listen i'm not saying he's a good player, he's not, just saying his form has been good.. i would love to have carr sidelined as much as anyone; i've just said though that there arn't any PL right-backs available, that's why he's looking abroad. No team is going to sell us their good right-backs (ideally we should be getting first team regulars) with so little time left to find a replacement. his form has not been good - i draw your attention to the Villa game, m'lud. You can't use that game mind, nobody played particularly well. Eh? HE was not very good - you can't say he's been in good form if he's played badly. i don't know why i get stuck with f*cking defending carr.. ffs his general form has been pretty decent under alladyce. You can disagree, i'll be waiting on the edge of my seat for the same generic response.. its not as if i want him though.. so this disscussion is rather silly. lets just agree that he's sh*yt

I don't get either 1) The assumption that he won't be coached well under Allardyce or 2) That going to Man Utd will iron out the flaws in his game given he arrived from Italy lacking decent movement or touch. blueyes.gif

would really be a mindf*ck for us if he's any good now. is he?

would be gutted if we lost martins.. anelka doesnt do it for me: too whingey, not as fast, much older, disloyal... good player though no doubt, but no thanks

God I hate people wrongly editing Wikipedia. What a f****** cock, whoever's done that. what did it say... or is this a joke i'm not getting I've fixed it. still curious as to what it said though..

Firstly - Deco: <snigger> Secondly - no-one good enough for the team??? HE'S BEEN PLAYING CARR!!! f****** Carr!!! If he can't find anyone better than THAT, he's a worse manager than i thought. And f*** Premiership experience, a new player has only got to replace f****** CARR!! Agreed. The worrying thing is Allardyce seems to rate Carr in my opinion which isn't good news for us. hasn't done anything blatantly wrong so far... but you just know he'll do something stupid. (carr, just so it's clear) he was s**** against Villa, and THEY were pretty poor. As he did whenever he's played for us in the past, he'll get raped off decent teams. Tbf he just didn't have the pace.. Anyway listen i'm not saying he's a good player, he's not, just saying his form has been good.. i would love to have carr sidelined as much as anyone; i've just said though that there arn't any PL right-backs available, that's why he's looking abroad. No team is going to sell us their good right-backs (ideally we should be getting first team regulars) with so little time left to find a replacement. his form has not been good - i draw your attention to the Villa game, m'lud. You can't use that game mind, nobody played particularly well.

wish he'd stay in boro where he was relatively docile... Don't want evrton getting him. Don't think they're any better than us though.. about the same iyam, besides arteta (pure class) theyr midfield is lacking especially down the wings

So, he really is a perfect replacement for Dyer. Dyer got 14 goals in his last 70 games at club level so I'd say not, then again he doesn't get stuck in like Snudger does so that doesn't matter. And 20 in the previous 216. He's a meastro! That wasn't quite the point I'm making, my point has always been to replace Dyer with a player with pace who can stretch games, we've seen in the past before we signed Bellamy and Robert how a team can be changed when you add it, we should have been looking to replace Dyer with someone with similar pace but more consistent in his football rather than a talentless grafter who gets stuck in. Dyer didn't stretch games. He scored very few, created even less. I know it's hard but look past your hatred for Dyer and see the bit I've highlighted, do you agree with that? No, i don't. I don't want a player who can run fast with the ball. I want a player to run fast with the ball and do something with it. Its not about more consistency than Dyer, its about more talent. I don't think Smith is a replacement for Dyer (at least, he shouldn't be), but then i don't think we need a replacement for a midfielder who was s*** on the wing, and offered v little in the centre. Agree with what baggio's saying, its what i was thinking when all of you wanted dyer gone. but to call smith "talentless" is taking it too far. smith is a good player and his passion more than makes up for his lack of pace, his passing game is often overlooked aswell; much rather have him than geremi, i mean we've seen smith play very well for manyoo and don't understand where all this negativity is coming from. He's highly rated by his own fans because of his great attitude and ability on the field. Im going to end up contradicting myself now, but yeah we really need pacey playmaker.. we do need a pacey playmaker, but we needed one when we HAD Dyer. Smith is not highly rated by many Man Utd fans as a midfielder, but when played further up front he's viewed as doing alright. Yeah but we had the pacey part. Smith is highly rated by man utd fans, many were sad to see him go.

and while we're at it lets trade our team for boltons Personally I wouldn't go that far. it would be a bit silly actually...

So, he really is a perfect replacement for Dyer. Dyer got 14 goals in his last 70 games at club level so I'd say not, then again he doesn't get stuck in like Snudger does so that doesn't matter. And 20 in the previous 216. He's a meastro! That wasn't quite the point I'm making, my point has always been to replace Dyer with a player with pace who can stretch games, we've seen in the past before we signed Bellamy and Robert how a team can be changed when you add it, we should have been looking to replace Dyer with someone with similar pace but more consistent in his football rather than a talentless grafter who gets stuck in. Dyer didn't stretch games. He scored very few, created even less. I know it's hard but look past your hatred for Dyer and see the bit I've highlighted, do you agree with that? No, i don't. I don't want a player who can run fast with the ball. I want a player to run fast with the ball and do something with it. Its not about more consistency than Dyer, its about more talent. I don't think Smith is a replacement for Dyer (at least, he shouldn't be), but then i don't think we need a replacement for a midfielder who was s*** on the wing, and offered v little in the centre. Agree with what baggio's saying, its what i was thinking when all of you wanted dyer gone. but to call smith "talentless" is taking it too far. smith is a good player and his passion more than makes up for his lack of pace, his passing game is often overlooked aswell; much rather have him than geremi, i mean we've seen smith play very well for manyoo and don't understand where all this negativity is coming from. He's highly rated by his own fans because of his great attitude and ability on the field. Im going to end up contradicting myself now, but yeah we really need pacey playmaker..

God I hate people wrongly editing Wikipedia. What a f****** cock, whoever's done that. what did it say... or is this a joke i'm not getting

Firstly - Deco: <snigger> Secondly - no-one good enough for the team??? HE'S BEEN PLAYING CARR!!! f****** Carr!!! If he can't find anyone better than THAT, he's a worse manager than i thought. And f*** Premiership experience, a new player has only got to replace f****** CARR!! Agreed. The worrying thing is Allardyce seems to rate Carr in my opinion which isn't good news for us. hasn't done anything blatantly wrong so far... but you just know he'll do something stupid. (carr, just so it's clear) he was s**** against Villa, and THEY were pretty poor. As he did whenever he's played for us in the past, he'll get raped off decent teams. Tbf he just didn't have the pace.. Anyway listen i'm not saying he's a good player, he's not, just saying his form has been good.. i would love to have carr sidelined as much as anyone; i've just said though that there arn't any PL right-backs available, that's why he's looking abroad. No team is going to sell us their good right-backs (ideally we should be getting first team regulars) with so little time left to find a replacement.