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It's not out of the realm of possibility that even spending what's been reported on Guehi is tied to Miggy / Trippier leaving. There's a lengthy list of theories you could come up with at the moment. We'll know more in a couple weeks, but unfortunately won't really have the full picture for another 10 months.

Until given a reason to think otherwise I'm just assuming recent Gomez links are just a lazy continuation of what may have been discussed in late June when we were in extreme panic mode. He's more like Vlachodimos than a real target (I hope).

Ok, that's what I thought. He could easily be included beyond that I guess. Also thrown off by #UEL - isn't that the Europa League? Such stupid names and acronyms.

I think I'm being slow, but what does this mean: "Squad is not for the #UEL at large."

If you wanted to be as critical as possible about our business then this would be the angle. A 31 year old striker coming off an 18 goal season and a 29 year old winger coming off an unprecedented run of goalscoring form. That was the time. The best teams in all sports tend to consistently move players on at sometimes uncomfortable times. The old adage of better to sell a year too early than a year too late. But this is very difficult to do in practice for all sorts of reasons and always much easier to criticize in hindsight.

If Liverpool end this window with Guehi and Mamardashvili...

We're poor sellers because we're mostly trying to peddle things no one wants.

This is how I feel and probably helped by having low expectations since early July. My only frustration, which I'm sure everyone at the club shares tenfold, is our inability to sell anyone. It's really stalling us.

A loan with an obligation to buy based on certain criteria would be the absolute best outcome. Then we'd have to pray he makes it through the season.

It shows how desperate things were. We didn't have the time or the latitude to negotiate on who was coming back to us.

Liverpool don’t and haven’t had reasonable replacements for Salah, Van Dijk, or Alisson. When you have stars it’s not really feasible to have like for like replacements. And the other part is that’s just a reality of our situation. We could have paid £30m each for two strikers; instead we went big on Isak. For a variety of reasons we’ve become a bit imbalanced in terms of where we’ve invested / have depth, but for the most part this problem is largely a function of the glass ceiling that’s in place.

Ideal scenario is we swap places with Villa in the top 5. Villa, Chelsea, and Man United on the outside looking in. Maximum financial collateral damage.

Definitely true. We could have a very, very good season and finish 6th, but that goes for everyone from 4th-8th (and I'm not totally opposed to lumping Liverpool in with that group either).

The executive box thing seems to be more telling about his personal life than his future at NUFC.

If we're not able to (or don't want to) sell Miggy, Trippier, Targett, etc. then we have a very interesting decision to make. I think the Guehi fee is pushing at or beyond the limit of what we can do. He's clearly our number one target - do we wait and try to go back in January or next summer? We'd probably need some indication he's not going to commit to Palace sometime this season, but if he doesn't the vultures will well and truly be circling a year from now. No guarantee he doesn't end up at Liverpool or elsewhere. If not, do we go on to our next CB target or wait until next summer? It doesn't seem like we can turn around and spend a huge fee on a RW instead because then we'd be in a tricky spot for dealing with our backline next summer. There'd be a definite risk, but part of me really likes the idea of saving our money for January/June to try to take advantage of others who are struggling with PSR. I imagine these are all the scenarios we're playing out while trying to flog Miggy and Targett to all corners of the globe.

Until November 2...

Atlanta confirmed at the time it was an MLS record (and still is). In fact, the quote from one Darren Eales is that it "shattered the league transfer record." This (and the Joelinton stuff) just feels like an attempt to further discredit Ashley, who needs no help in being discredited.

The odds of finding a Brazilian in France in our first transfer window with new owners while battling relegation who would turn out to be a transformative player, a future captain, and have this mindset "I want my photo to be in the reception like Sir Bobby Robson, Kevin Keegan, Jackie Milburn" were so incredibly miniscule.

Three counterpoints: 1) I don't think RW was our biggest issue last season. There's a much stronger argument for somewhere between GK and CM. 2) It's not a given that Botman and/or Lascelles are tremendously useful this season 3) At the end of this season like half of our backline is out of contract and we have a lot of decisions to make.

PIF owning a bunch of clubs does not feel the same to me as something like United Football Group a la City. Will be interesting to see which way this goes if it ever gets going.

I'd rather sign no one for sure.

There's a very obvious reason for this...

It's a trait we need, though I'm not sure our lack of transfer business says that one way or another. No news on Isak / Gordon could be an indicator (though it's entirely possible one or both are already done).

I want him to succeed so badly and I think he's going to excellent. It will definitely get ugly if he's not.

For sure, but when it happens in November you have a dozen+ games to compare it to. A game where our best defender gets dismissed before the half hour mark and yet we still win would quite easily be dismissed as an excellent three points. But everything is magnified in the first couple weekends, so now we get a fun week discussing Gordon's body language and Eddie's shortcomings.