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We'll go out in the last 16 and Southgate will be sacked. Ruthless business is international football. Hero to zero. For me, at least he made us likeable again.

Problem with the corner is that it almost becomes divisive in that, those near or in the corner get sick of churning out the same songs in the hope the rest of the ground join in, so then revert to any old song they know - which half the ground don't, so don't join in and then it becomes difficult to generate an atmosphere like in the Bournemouth game when the team need it. I get irritated by singing Eddie Howe's Black and White Army but it's one of our few songs that fans know to really instill a drum beat and gather momentum. Likewise I get frustrated at people singing some sort of random song like Peter Lovenkrandz in them moments, mean absolutely fuck all and counter intuitive. We really need singing sections behind the goal, or even behind the Gallowgate goal at least to start.

Beautifully put.

I like to think of it all as a pendulem swing. As soon as it swings too far either side you'll achieve an almost equal and opposite reaction. So the less you swing it then the more likely you are to find an equalibrium and a state of relative peace. Right now shits getting polarised and social media and the actual media don't help.

It's our pleasure. It couldn't be done without fan donations and without those in the stadium playing their part too

It definitely worked There are other things we have considered too. Such as the Brentford display and the gap for the Rugby World Cup game etc. It made practical and moral sense. Besides, we're havinga stock check/reorganise.

Loads of twitter comments "fan funded - should have went to vote". Then we'd be like the Trust and get shit done every 9 months not 9 days. I kna we're not above criticism but fuck me.

I'm not disputing the state the country is in. I'm disputing that some will simply tell their favourite parts of history simply to make a stance rather than accepting good AND bad. That's the same on both sides.

Okay, so now you've all had you're say, and everyone on social media is having their say, and all will continue to have their say until after the game finishes tomorrow on what we did or didn't do, I'll have my say. I was being a WUM and deliberately did so because it was evident on here how the majority lean. The reaction was by and large as I expected so my plan worked This week and recent weeks with costs of living escalating and more people being put into poverty etc. Has seen some of the most difficult discussions regarding displays that the group has ever had. We have come through some passionate discussion and reached a democratic decision that will no doubt leave some pleased and some disappointed. Nonetheless, I want to make people aware - tonight approximately 100 working hours to achieve 'sitting on the fence' so I won't have it called 'pathetic' simple as that. Be fucked off if you wish, hell, I wanted a display for HRH, my Queen, a highly financially priveleged servant to our people, but don't stretch it to needless comments like that. I'm not saying the above for plaudits despite how people may see that. I'm saying it for justification. If our group cannot have a strong majority in favour of a display it doesn't happen, it is somewhat democratic and it somewhat works. Every individual can make their own commemoration tomorrow or can simply be respectful to those around them who wish to do just that. Despite it being fun to read, I think some of the comments and speculation has been a bit laughable on here this afternoon. Proper toys out the pram stuff. It fucks me off tbh in wider society. The 'liberal' left who don't accept any views other than those who share that same view. Bizarre. Then you have the right and far right... Fuck me. I think I'll stick to debating who are best all time 11 is.

Howay...

Cooooeeeee

Bang on.

It may seem that way but there's always plenty to be proud of being British. People are selective in their story telling that's all. It's harder to be proud of being British nowadays though, for fear of some outlandish lefty criticism. Just my opinion as a patriotic centre lefty.

We absolutely have and there's been a lot of heated discussion in the group this week. From a purely selfish, group perspective I cannot wait for next weeks fixture so this weeks is put to bed with the display debate too. I don't think people realise the effort it's taken to simply 'sit on the fence for this one"...

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We shall see

Pot. Stirred.

You boys and girls aren't gonna be happy ?

Perhaps these people just put the best cases forward for how they'd utilise the money? Get the points being made like.

Oi. Oi.

As frustrating as this process may have been for many, even on the board (I suspect), it's an incredibly large achievement in my opinion and they can and should be proud of it. The notion of fan ownership in my opinion is still required, albeit not for a long time for us now, you'd think, but plugs will eventually be pulled... As critical as I am and will continue to be, I cnanot knock this for effort.

Are you referring to the flying of flags or nationalism in terms of racism/negative nationalism?