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Just as much as it is Boo Boy tbf. Think Howe deserves some 'reason' tbh. He hardly deserves sacking but he does need to address things. A lot fo sensationalist remarks being made though like us being honking and shir since the start of last season etc. Think that's all a bit much and quite literally ignoring some of the performances of a lifetime as a Newcastle fan (in the case of PSG).

Was down to a poor plan around our midfield for me. We seemed to have all their midfield and attack against our defence every single time they countered.

Based on what out of curiosity?

I don't really agree with that timeline tbh but certainly this calendar year we have struggled with number 10s of any calibre.

I think @Kid Icarusis merely saying folk should be more measured in their criticism to be honest like and to have some perspective. I for one, agree. Objectively, we aren't improving based on results over the last two years, but as I've briefly identified it's by 0.1 points per game. Performance wise - we have improved in recent games but not picked up points - which I think is acknowledged by all. I just don't see it as being being the panic stations kind of scenario that folk are making out and I suspect @Kid Icarusfeels the same.

So we played shit versus Liverpool and PSG?

Sorry just combining two posts I've made here... Including friendlies in the calendar year of 2023 we averaged out at 1.7points per game. 1.6points for 2024 (thus far). I don't think things are as bad as being made out at all like. Albeit, they're not going the right direction at present.

That's mental.

We didn't play bad though. We battered them for 60mins and shir our pants after the red card...

2023 Played 61 Lost 17 Drawn 14 Won 30 For contrast (based on calendar years). 1.7pts per game rounded down to 1dp.

This calendar year (including friendlies): Played 41 Lost 12 Drawn 10 Won 19 In normal time. Hardly absolutely shite like. Not as good as 2023 though, admittedly (I presume). 1.6pts per game to rounded down to 1dp.

Wey howay man. The start of last season? When we almost beat Liverpool at home, dicked Villa and PSG, etc.?

I think off the field we have had several changes in direction and personnel which have impacted on the pitch morale. We've also been caught out (as planned) with FFP shite. That's not say the players and coaching staff are blameless though. Key moments and at Fulham and Chelsea I think to.soem degree we've been tactically outdone and missed key chances.

Our back 4 were left badly exposed tactically today. Not gonna put any of the blame on them.

Was never a pen that man.

Spot on.

Ah okay. As fans it should always be Atmosphere FC, for me but I agree. The club should be aiming to give the fans something to sing about. Surely, if the club are saying how much the atmosphere helps them we should.all remain positive and behind them though, right...

I'll be honest - I don't know much about all 3. But Zidane and Xavi don't strike me as available or perhaps better options. Allegri seems the most likely best of the three (if any) if we were to switch.

Pardon? Atmosphere FC?

Can we tempt those in existing circumstances? Also - off the top of my head haven't Zidane nd Xavi only managed Real Madrid and Barca respectively? (Cannot be arsed to look as watching Inter)

You could say the same about any potential impending replacement though. That would all be based on what they HAVE DONE and not even here. I don't really see that many obvious and available options who would a) massively improve us given other contraints and b) want to be here at the moment and fonally c) I don't think what he has done for us warrants him being replaced.

We've also only played 3 of the 8 teams below us...

We are scarred. Rightly so. Ashley stripped thie club to the very bare minimum and the brink of capitulation. I just prefer to put my faith in folk who, in my opinion, have done enough to warrant my faith. I think for us to turn our back on Howe now, or any time prior to March would be, somewhat fickle. The club needs unity and positivity and we'll be alreet. At the moment we're hovering over a big red panic button (as 'supporters').

@HaydnNUFC Was something similar to this. Could change Hall for Tino or Tino right and no Trippier etc.