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That lasts 5 years.

One thing is for certain, it shows the corrupt nature of the league.

Would the FMV ruling not essentially mean that now the PL must be transparent on its rejections of sponsorship deals and as a result the grounds on which a rejection is made? If so, and there aren't legitimate grounds or a means to define FMV then surely it's a big thing that allows us to splash the cash (but also others admittedly)? Difference being we don't have outstanding debt like the other clubs, or not much of it, by comparison...cheers Mike.

Yep. Formally and informally - make this a matter of us and them now and utilise it to fuel a fire that sets this steam engine rolling.

Or offer a time to get their collective house in order, I guess, whilst the rules are rewritten. That in itself would come under fire though by those such as ourselves and City, you'd imagine.

It's just shite and me waffling mate. Don't worry. I have like, 30% understanding.

Aye. The rule is bollocks really. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder isn't it. Something could be worth a fiver to o person but worth 50million to another. So for example, Newcastle is worth £600b which is absolutely fair, I think you'd all agree.

Me especially and I'm right.

What this should highlight to us as a club though is that the intent from virtually all but Man City was to stop us dead in our financial tracks. So fuck the other 18 or so.

My suspicion is that as clubs have acted seemingly within the rules of the Premier League they can not now be reprimanded for operating within said rules. So any retrospective repercussions simply won't exist. That means that leaves only the here and now and the future. My suspicion there is that clubs will be advised to fall in line with PSR etc. By the end of the season or face repercussions in the new season. That way clubs have time to respond and tow the line. As for the Man City crack and FMV then I suspect there'll be changes to that ruling that ultimately enforce it in a more transparent and fair manner moving forward so to maintain the existing status quo and prevent those such as our good selves blowing it out the water or extending the so called "elite" to another club. How they do that, would have to be defined and so, it wouldn't surprise me if a cap or period of "closure" was implemented to manage this until they define the new and transparent measures. To someone else's earlier point (Bimpy?) I'd be surprised to see rival clubs back off now. Instead I think they'll double down together and possibly against the Premier League. The only thing that is absolutely certain now is that the Premier League is absolutely and entirely fucked with regards to credibility.

Amen to that.

Nee idea.

If one of which was deemed to be £80m for the year then that could mean a claim for what? £20m? For just one of said deals to Man City - is that correct? I wonder how much the PL actually has/rakes in once all the competition money is divvied back out to clubs etc. This is just one as well, there could be a multitude of similar claims and the screw also getting turned by the likes of Arsenal et al as they collectively shite their pants. The PL could be fucked.

Is that not to some degree irrelevant though as the expenditure made on such developments would have had to be made directly from their "transfer funds" thus not enabling them to spend it on players, etc.? It's all very complicated. The PL have embarrassed themselves...again.

What happens if the BL goes bankrupt? I mean, could that be a thing? Would there essentially be no top flight? Or would it just become the First Divison of old?

Yep. Absolutely this. At what point did football become as much about the business and boardroom as the 11 on the pitch? Like as a fan, we're embroiled in this absolute shite instead of simply looking forward to the next midweek or Saturday game. Football itself has become too much, extra games, more extra games, more television, more money. The novelty of a midweek European game and a Saturday 3 o clock is long lost and we're all a cash cow being milked by the media. Football requires adequate and uncorrupt governance and to be brought back in line. That being said, let's spunk some money a wipe the floor with all the DCs that chained us back.

I mean, I struggle to get most this malarkey but it seems to me the door has swung wide open for us to accuse the Premier League of anti-competitivity with regards to Newcastle United and an unfair and unjust system designed to prevent Newcastle especially from progressing into the upper echelons of the PL. The PL, of course, having bene lobbied by the existing members (as you'd expect). As a club we should really nail the PL and rival clubs now and "stick it to the man". Fuck the whole lot of them. Except Man City, who ironically we may now be able to compete with

Does a lawsuit count as viable revenue if successful?

The Premier League have entirely fucked this up. What amused me was Everton singing that to the referee when a) it wasn't a penalty and b) we're the ones being fucked by it the most. We've literally been chained to the floor by any means possible to prevent us from taking off. It's shit tbf, money is absolutely ruining the game. That being said, hasn't money always meant those with greater resource get to the top? So it's just an issue now we could theoretically blow teams entirely out the water? Elon Musk will buy Man United now

What was Everton were singing again.. "Premier League, corrupt as fuck" #LOL

I mean, I get what you're saying albeit I'm not sure it's a similar situation like. I mean she must be stupid to decline, right?

I generally don't have issue with Everton but I think since our hounding of Pickford they've taken a real disliking to us and us having Gordon really has got their goat so to speak. The commentary from Carragher regarding Gordon was always "Left for bigger things" etc. on Saturday almost making it out they were hard done by. He's played in the Champions League for us since and had his most productive couple of years, improving as a player after being bullied and hounded out of (I believe) his boyhood club. That, is the reality.