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Outliers like PSG? Arsenal in two Cup semi finals? The cup semi finals we played against Southampton? The Big games we played for Premier League survival like every other week for the second half of Howes first season? The derby game? Man United away in the cup? Chelsea & Forest this year in the cup? Smashing Spurs within 22mins or something to be 5 up? PSG away where we we cheated? Milan away where we battled hard, and scraped a draw. A lot of this is subjective I guess. Define a big game. Define playing well. Etc. I just don't agree that we don't turn up in big games and there is plenty of evidence to suggest we do, just not all them.

Agreed. Was more in reference to @Stifler comments tbh. I don't like saying folks opinions are simply rubbish tbh, but I just feel it is in this instance (sorry @Stiflerbud). On the subject of consistency; the whole league excluding maybe half a dozen sides is inconsistent and actually we're one of the more consistent ones ironically. 12 wins in the last 15 is it?

How many times have we gone into a week saying "we need 6 or 7 from the next 3" etc. Though and done it. How many time shave we gone into cup games and won. Two cup finals in 3 years and quarter finals etc. Won our only local derby. Have beaten fairly big sides on a few occasions. Every game is big because we aspire to be a CL side and CL sides need to win almost every game. That is what has changed and that is what's testament to Howe and the club. You cannot win all these 'big' games with a squad like ours.

It's rubbish that we don't do it in big games. There's plenty evidence to suggest we do turn up in big games, the difference is more games are big games these days that's all. Every game is a big game pretty much.

My God yous need to wind your necks in about Longstaff like. Kid is just coming on the pitch in a game where every other bugger has been slated for being shite and you give him shit. Bore off.

Yeah, so I'm starting to discover match threads have many knee-jerk statements

I will be happy to be surprised but my suspicion is we will lose 2 or 3 of our upcoming games. Just feels very 'Newcastle' to me We aren't allowed too much of owt too good. Although under regular circumstances I'd feel we have a very good chance of beating these and Forest at home, this season. Just hope we have a genuine focus on each, next game.

This is absolutely right too

Have to think that financially it may benefit clubs to have an ESL, if higher level competition is removed, and therefore they can consolidate their positions in England's top league (and potentially higher up) too. Plays into the hands of those so called "Big 6" who wanted to break away in that regard. The alternative is that said "non-big-6" as you say will not want the league wasting their money on court cases and compensation to aspiring clubs such as Newcastle. If this leads to the former situation then fans of all Premier League clubs cannot really complain. Their adherence to being lickspittles for the status quo will have ruined English football. The reality here, from a neutral point of view is that money is absolutely killing the game and the existing rules were perhaps an attempt to balance the playing field but were ill thought out and rushed through to stop NUFC primarily not MCFC. We shouldn't be allowed to buy anyone we want for £300m, but that horse has bolted in years gone by. They should have been transparent from the start if that was their intention, which makes me think they have either a) failed or b) that wasn't their intention. With the whole trying to prevent our sale I cannot help but feel it's the latter as clubs lobbied to try and stop it (iirc). As a neutral, I think we'd be contributing to ruining competitivity spending like we could and ruining the game some more. However, my feeling now (as an NUFC fan) is fuck all of them, let's have our day in the limelight before they eventually fix it. You won't ever hear folk saying City didn't win what they won just because of some retrospective charges...

Premier League is essentially fucked now in its current guise is my understanding. Masters will be shipped out for them to save face and it will go bust after compensation claims and then your big 6 wankers will want the ESL again in the PLs demise as this essentially opens a hole for that discussion to take place. You'd think the FA would need to step in and govern whilst some sort of alternative PL is set up for pure commercial gain. Mind...I am thick too.

This. The freaks.

Yep.

Nar na. Pulse cider. What do you think I am, a scruff?

Behind the goal, area 543

Last year was on the Saturday and this year will be the same I reckon

No one cared I don't think mate. All the chat is Wembley as you can imagine haha

Nee idea. I'm a pot 3er.

Think the Scousers will be like the Manchester Reds tbh. Won far too much to give a fuck about the league cup.

I personally just do not understand the logic of being a match going fan and not singing for your team. You can watch almost every game on TV and get multiple angles and better views and replays etc. From the comfort of your own home or a bar or whatever. Therefore you must go for atmosphere. If you go for atmosphere, how do you expect there to be one unless you help make one? That doesn't necessarily mean you have to sing for 90 mins or even at all. However, at least assist those willing to do so in faciitating it.

Thing is mate like, honestly, I try to think of the folks who will be replying with these sorts of remarks and their motivation or situation: 1) WUMs/Trolls Fair game - easy target to generate bites and replies 2) Non match going fans It literally doesnt effect you anyways 3) Match going fan - singer Encouraging folk to sing and make their voices magnified by uniting with like minded supporters 4) Match going fan - NonSinger You may wish to have that view of the game, fair, but just like you have the choice to not sing, others have the choice to sing and Eddie Howe and the players have repeatedly said how the home atmosphere helps. So...do you want to gain an advantage in the final? It's that simple, surely...?

I'm away with work so not really following all that's going on in the flag chats (have had over 700 messages in 2 days). The usual remarks from social media... "You can't tell us what to do" "Who are you to tell us" "Last time was mint" "Getting above themselves" "Egos" Yada yada yada. Will be folk who whinge about it all and do fuck all. Wor Flags and others are simply trying to find a positive resolution that suits most folk.

@Ronaldo has enjoyed trying to bait me for many a year on here. I'm not that arsed tbh. He got it wrong this time. I'm sure he won't other times. It is what it is. Me and Eddie managed Sandro right. you can thank me later @Ronaldo x :lol:

It was worth a try...

I'm not from that side of the water, I struggle...