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Just undermined your own argument there. No I haven't. Singing about Mido looking like Richard Reid is entirely different to singing about him being in Mubai due to his religion. And yet you just made the racist connection Muslim = terrorist. Outed yourself, basically. And the song says nowt about Richard Reid. Can't believe the thickos who were singing it even know what Reid looks like, tbh. Outed myself??? As what? Racist? No that would be wrong as being a Muslim isn't a race. Of course I made the link, I'm an intelligent 32 year old NUFC supporter, it wasn't difficult - Mubai, Muslim terrorists, Mido is a Muslim. That's wrong, as I've already stated. Maybe in the future - just so you and the rest of the 'hang NUFC' southern press can be sure - they should sing: Miiiidoo, he looks like Richard Reid you know. I love the assumption that all of those peope singing the song were thick. Maybe you have outed yourself?? I always liked your username, but you're obviously just a dumb bigot. Begone. I am neither dumb, nor a bigot. Never have been, never will be. I cannot stand judgement of another person on their looks or beliefs and for the record I'm pretty much atheist. Actually, that maybe slightly inaccurate. Don't judge me, you don't know me. Why did you like my username btw?

Just undermined your own argument there. No I haven't. Singing about Mido looking like Richard Reid is entirely different to singing about him being in Mubai due to his religion. And yet you just made the racist connection Muslim = terrorist. Outed yourself, basically. And the song says nowt about Richard Reid. Can't believe the thickos who were singing it even know what Reid looks like, tbh. Outed myself??? As what? Racist? No that would be wrong as being a Muslim isn't a race. Of course I made the link, I'm an intelligent 32 year old NUFC supporter, it wasn't difficult - Mubai, Muslim terrorists, Mido is a Muslim. That's wrong, as I've already stated. Maybe in the future - just so you and the rest of the 'hang NUFC' southern press can be sure - they should sing: Miiiidoo, he looks like Richard Reid you know. I love the assumption that all of those peope singing the song were thick. Maybe you have outed yourself??

Social services were involved, but they were acting on advice from a Paediatrician - Marieta Higgs - who thought she had developed a new technique to identify abused children. Some people are calling it boring, but as a father of 3, if I was accused and ostracised wrongly, then banned from seeing my children. I'd be seriously thinking about doing the same as some of those people. I'd put it on a par as singing songs about the Bradford fire and the Munich disaster.

Just undermined your own argument there. No I haven't. Singing about Mido looking like Richard Reid is entirely different to singing about him being in Mubai due to his religion. Wullie: I know what you mean, but it's old stuff and at the end of the day it people died due to it. The gas masks and suits were funny and that is taking the piss, the paedo stuff is just stupid it doesn't mater how long it has gone on for. Guess there must be quite a few younger posters on this thread judging by the above comments. Who died? A few of the INNOCENT people accused took their own lives as a direct result. It also split quite a few innocent families up.

Just undermined your own argument there. No I haven't. Singing about Mido looking like Richard Reid is entirely different to singing about him being in Mubai due to his religion. Wullie: I know what you mean, but it's old stuff and at the end of the day it people died due to it. The gas masks and suits were funny and that is taking the piss, the paedo stuff is just stupid it doesn't mater how long it has gone on for. Guess there must be quite a few younger posters on this thread judging by the above comments.

That's not being viewed as 'racist', so won't be sorted until next year.

As other people have already stated, it has nothing to with Islamophobia, it was originally chanted by Spurs I think. It is his similarity to Richard Reid. Anyone who picks up racism out this needs their head checking. If that Mumbai stuff is correct, then those people ought to be ashamed of themselves though. The Paedo stuff needs stamping out straight away, that isn't funny and is just embarrassing.

f*** off. Honestly? Why have you never mentioned this before? To be fair Dave, he has said this before. Still a twat though

I wouldn't normally go down this route, but I wasn't in the mood for shaking Bennett's had at full time either. The bloke was a disgrace last night and seriously needs to review some of his decisions. Always acts like that up here.

Women. At football matches. I'm not a sexist person, but this just doesn't work out.

It came from the corner of the box. The left corner of the box... Enrique is incredibly talented and has one of the best crosser of the balls at the club. He's on eo fthe few in the first team with a proper footballig brain.

Scott Sellars He scored in 1993 at our place, when it should've been called off for a waterlogged pitch. In off the post if I remember correctly.

Credit goes to Ash04 for that

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Some snippets from A Love Supreme - I found them funny. In my lifetime, I’ve seen us beat them up the road several times. Up the road being the operative phrase in that sentence, and I was hoyed out of the spring chicken club a considerable a good few years ago. Since that day in 1980, when I was at work (at probably the second worst job I’ve had the misfortune to have had) and only managed half of the home games that season, I’ve got married, stayed in the same job for almost 28 years, owned twelve cars, run twenty-odd half marathons, countless 10ks, and two marathons, had several near-death experiences, and raised to children to adulthood. They’ve never seen us beat the buggers at home, and neither have I.Way back when it happened, I was in a shitty job and equally shitty frame of mind, making my music of the moment, Joy Division, fantastically appropriate. Since then I’ve travelled far and wide through many different times, and seen Sunderland directionless, so plain to see, Sunderland shirts in different shades, over each mistakes were made. We gave them everything and more. Don’t walk away, pleaded Ian Curtis in his Mancunian drawl. A few weeks after Stan Cummins did the trick for SAFC, Ian Curtis did for himself in his kitchen, with the aid of a piece of rope and clothes airer. Not the most romantic of exits from this mortal coil, but there you go. That was the end of him, and that was the end of Sunderland beating the mags on Wearside until 2008. Why? Nobody knows, as there have been numerous games from which we should have emerged triumphant. Your confusion, my illusion. I, like thousands of others, didn’t walk away from SAFC in the intervening years, despite there being numerous occasions when any shrink on the planet would have accepted that it was a perfectly valid thing to do. A lifetime later, in what could be happily described as a mature stage of life (physically if not mentally), I’ve had the butterflies that always migrate to my stomach prior to any game against the barcodes, but in huge numbers when it’s a home game. I know I should be beyond that, but I’m not. Nervous, nervous, nervous, meant a quiet night in and an early start. Stupid kick-off at 12:45 meant that distant fans had a hell of a time getting to Wearside, while those of us living relatively local saw it as a challenge to spend at least as much time in the pub as we did for a normal kick-off. So the week was filled with message of breakfast-time bar opening, and beer for breakfast for many. We of a sensible nature, and already worked up to a frenzy with thoughts of the game to come, opted for a FEB. Sausage, beans, eggs, back, the original Full Monty, before a quick pint (well, it would have been rude not to, what with them having opened up just after they’d closed) and onto the bus. I was lucky that I had a couple of Chelsea tickets to pick up and therefore no chance of any more beer in Sunderland, so I was seated and back on my feet in a frenzy way before the wall of sound erupted. £600 lighter, courtesy of having picked up ALL of the Chelsea tickets, I still had to shell out for our Ian’s beer and the taxi from Bish (having over-refreshed myself and slept in). As it turned out, £600 well spent. After collecting the tickets, we joined the scrum in the Colliery (I paid again, it’s the bairn’s birthday on Monday) then hit the SoL at the ridiculously early hour of twenty minutes before the fun began. As atmospheres go, today’s was right up there with the best. Take that, Paul Merson. After the early news that Gordon had turned his ankle, it was no surprise and no real problem to see Fulop in goal, with the rest being.... Chimbo Anton Danny George Richo Deano York Diooooof Steed Cisse It was a fairly frantic and fast game for the first 20 minutes, but without the added irritation factor of the mags getting into our box. We fired a couple harmlessly wide before the ball came in low from the right, passed the hilariously stupid Steven Taylor, and found Cisse at the back post. Out went his leg, in went the ball, up went the crowd. Unlike our past incarnations, we kept at them (which wasn’t that difficult, given how shite they really are) and Richo fired just wide of their right hand post from distance. What was that I said about us not being like our former selves? Come 29 minutes, in came the Toon to our box for the first time, and in went the header for a crap equaliser. Ten minutes later we had what I thought was a good shout for a penalty when Cisse looked to have been pushed, but we got nowt, as usual. In the minute added, we continued to dominate, and if there was any sort of justice in terms of stats (number of times in the box) we’d have been 10 -3 up when the whistle went. No changes at the break, and we kept pushing at them. Taylor cemented his position as the stupidest person ever to pull on a football shirt with the most obvious handball since Tommy saved the penalty at Sid James Park. Unfortunately, we hit the free-kick wide of the far post. Jones replaced Yorke on 57, and we kept at them with added Kenwyne. Richo played Cisse in, but the wind took the ball that vital inch away from Djib’s toe-end and the chance was gone. Again we played our way into the danger area, with Steed , Diouf, and Richo combining for Keyring to shoot just wide. On 67, Steed looked to have a good chance, but miscued and then Diouf burst into the box only to be felled. Looked well in the box to me, but the ref gave the free on the edge (chicken). Up stepped dead-eye Richo, a change of speed, a change of style, to keep the ball beneath the wind and into the net for one of the great all-time derby day goals. Ooooh yer bugger, get in. While the crowd were still bouncing, Cisse got off a shot that he had no right to and watched as it zipped a foot over the top, then they brought on the dead funny Spaniard with the hair, we sat back a bit, and started to make hard work of things. Cisse bucked the trend by finding space for a shot that beat Given and did a Richo off the post. How did the wind not blow it in? With 5 to go, Teemu replaced Steed and did what he does best – slow the game down. With Reid on for the last couple of minutes, pus the three that the ref added, it was us pushing forward as the game died off. When the whistle went, I can honestly say that it was the best I’ve felt after an individual game since 5/5/73. I’ve never hugged so many random almost-strangers in my life. Weight off our backs, mobile going bizwack for the next hour, staying in Sunderland to cuddle even more people I barely know. Yippee. Isn’t it great to be a Sunderland fan? I travelled far and wide through many different times. They had tears in their eyes. Ha Ha. So we’ll share a drink and step outside. Man of the Match? Hard one, this. Anton was superb at the back, and Richo scored a belter, but I’ll have to give it to Cisse for the way he rose to the occasion and took the game to the unwashed. Who are still waiting for the sprinklers to come on for their yearly wash as I write. Ron has just rung, on his way to his niece’s wedding in Low Fell, to say that he’s currently following the dirty mag convoy back towards the hovels of Tyneside. What fun he’ll have at the reception. Keep the faith and also "I woke up this morning having dreamt that the lads turned the over scum at the SOL this afternoon. I lay in bed for a bit (next to a lingerie model) thinking of what it would feel like. I’ve never seen us beat the Mags in person before, but as I lay there this morning I remember thinking it would probably be the best day of my life. Thankfully my dream came true and yet again we played the scum off the park but this time managed to stick the ball in the net. Djibril Cisse and Kieran Richardson have made themselves Wearside legends as the lads beat the old enemy 2-1. With derby games against the scum looking destined to always kick off early doors in an attempt to curb trouble, I found myself questioning whether this measure makes any difference in stopping alcohol related bother. For instance I knew of a few lads getting to Mowbray Park at half eight this morning with a few cans before getting in Weatherspoons at 9am. Then at eleven o clock I saw a couple of lads swigging bottles of wine each in the Glass Spider as if they were sipping bottles of Evian at the gym. My point is does the early kick off inspire people to make more of an effort to get mortal before the game? Either way it made for a cracking atmosphere in a sold out SOL. There were a few surprises in the starting eleven with Craig Gordon presumably suffering a late injury and being replaced by Marton Fulop. In front of him a back four of Ringo, Ferdinand, Collins and Chimbo. Ahead of them Malbranque started on the right with Richardson on the left. Dwight Yorke was the surprise inclusion in midfield alongside Dean Whitehead. Up front El Hadji Diouf started alongside Cisse. We started ok but the windy conditions suited the mags tactics of hoofing long balls to Ameobi. We got a few dangerous crosses into their box from Malbranque but failed to get anyone on the end of them. The Scum’s best effort on goal came from a free kick which Geremi blasted into the wall. We took the lead after twenty minutes when Cisse turned in a mishit Malbranque shot. Cisse used his brain and dropped off Taylor and Coloccini and made space for himself to poke the ball home, and somersaulted in joy along with the rest of the SOL. Newcastle equalised just before the break when Ameobi headed in from a cross. However after seeing his second half performance I wonder whether he actually intended to head the ball back across goal rather than over the line. After Marco had made the half time lottery draw we set about destroying the barcodes. We set up camp in their half but didn’t capitalise on the amount of possession we had. With half hour left to play big Kenwyne made his return to first team action in place of Dwight Yorke. With twenty minutes left to play El Hadji Diouf demonstrated the quality Sunderland no w possesses. He ghosted past what seemed like 100 Scum defenders before being hacked down cynically on the edge of the box. The position of the free kick was perfect but with Rico being so unlucky against Fulham last time out we wondered whether he could again produce the goods. Well he did by blasting an unstoppable free kick into the top left hand corner. There was no attempt to curl or place the shot; it was a case of absolutely lacing the leather off the ball and nearly bursting the net. Now a word about Pope John Joey, who when warming up incited the Sunderland crowd by kissing his shirt in the same way I imagine he kissed arse in prison to some big tough guy. This was almost embarrassing, as was the way the unwashed welcomed his return by chanting his name and cheering as if Fernando Torres was warming up for them. I couldn’t think of a club more suitable for him to be fair. Sunderland saw the game out with considerable ease thanks to Shola Ameobi who did magnificently in thwarting any Newcastle attacks. His clearing of the ball for goal kicks when in dangerous positions or losing the ball whilst in possession made him a contender for man of the match. In fact we should have won the game by more as Sunderland ended the game well on top. Cisse came the closest when he fired a shot from twenty five yards but he was again denied by the woodwork as the ball struck the foot of the post. The full time whistle was greeted with chaotic scenes as a few fans invaded the pitch in excitement. Chimbonda came over to the West Stand and threw his shirt to the fans and it was nice to see that the lads really knew that the result meant something to the fans. ALS Man of the Match: Steed Malbranque. Was different class all afternoon. Was as brilliant as Shola Ameobi was useless (which is high praise). They've even printed T-shirts as well. http://www.a-love-supreme.com/index.htm

It's not bile, most of it is fair comment. He had just come on and looked like he had been on all match. Not asking for anything but a bit of closing down, you know, defending from the front.

Agree with that. Thought the manager, team and fans acted like a bunch of cocks with a certain attitude they didn't need to have.

Are you one of these people that writes to points Of View every time there's something on the telly you disagree with? Are you one of those people's who have previously posted on here under another username? No. Ask the mods. Why, who were you thinking of?

No, otherwise I'd be starting my posts with why o why o why... Are you one of these people who decides to go against the popular opinion whatever the topic?

But the so called NUSC is nothing like a supporters club, it's a single agenda driven vehicle of the usual self important and attention seeking suspects and in no way represents Newcastle fans. No sane Newcastle supporter would touch it with a barge pole. I totally agree mate, the rubbish they are releasing is further embarrasing and degrading the club, it isnt improving morale at the club or in the fans and I really wish they would just shut up! Have you told them this or are you going to keep on wishing?

That statement as a standalone I tend to rather agree with, but in the case of this thread it almost seems out of place. The NUSC is releasing press statements which are neither reasoned nor helpful. They're more blind prejudice and inflammatory. So true, as I've said doing something is only better than doing nothing if the action you take is beneficial. In this case we would be better off if they hadn't released these statements. Yep fair points. But it appears - and this has been the problem with NUFC fans in general for a while - that people are happy to moan and bitch about things on here, other forums, at work, in the pub etc but would never do anything about it. The people have, good on them. They don't have to have people pulling them down for it. If you've got such a problem with what they are saying - tell them. If they don't change when enough people tell them then by all means have a go at them. I think fans should stick to moaning and bitching to put it bluntly. There's a reason lunatics aren't usually allowed to run the asylum. Putting out statements discouraging sponsors, suggesting customers buy their pies from Greggs etc. shows why it's best fans just stick to being fans. Completely disagree. There is absolutely nothing wrong with forming something like NUSC. You're mixing up the things that they're saying, with what they set out to achieve. You will never get everyone to agree, but it seems like they've upset a few people. They need to be told and given a chance

That statement as a standalone I tend to rather agree with, but in the case of this thread it almost seems out of place. The NUSC is releasing press statements which are neither reasoned nor helpful. They're more blind prejudice and inflammatory. So true, as I've said doing something is only better than doing nothing if the action you take is beneficial. In this case we would be better off if they hadn't released these statements. Yep fair points. But it appears - and this has been the problem with NUFC fans in general for a while - that people are happy to moan and bitch about things on here, other forums, at work, in the pub etc but would never do anything about it. The people have, good on them. They don't have to have people pulling them down for it. If you've got such a problem with what they are saying - tell them. If they don't change when enough people tell them then by all means have a go at them.

Will also be interesting to see how many actually get replies. You're right, it will It will also be interesting to see how many people contact them in the first place. Right, just e mailed them. I'll let you know. If you don't mind asking - what was your query about? If you do, that's fine. I'll post my query & their reply on here when I get it, no bother at all. I wouldn't want my e mail being answered just because it had appeared on here, if you know what I mean? I'm not saying at all that that would be the case, but I'd rather wait and see. FWIW I do think I'll get one. Well done Liam, glad you've done something about it. There just seem a lot of people on here who jump on anything that happens and turn it into a negative. This is there chance to prove how much it means to them. I also agree with the 2/3 posts above, they have done some things badly and they are definitely some of them.

Will also be interesting to see how many actually get replies. You're right, it will It will also be interesting to see how many people contact them in the first place. Right, just e mailed them. I'll let you know. If you don't mind asking - what was your query about? If you do, that's fine.

Will also be interesting to see how many actually get replies. You're right, it will It will also be interesting to see how many people contact them in the first place.