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Thomson Mouse

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  1. Some snippets from A Love Supreme - I found them funny. In my lifetime, I’ve seen us beat them up the road several times. Up the road being the operative phrase in that sentence, and I was hoyed out of the spring chicken club a considerable a good few years ago. Since that day in 1980, when I was at work (at probably the second worst job I’ve had the misfortune to have had) and only managed half of the home games that season, I’ve got married, stayed in the same job for almost 28 years, owned twelve cars, run twenty-odd half marathons, countless 10ks, and two marathons, had several near-death experiences, and raised to children to adulthood. They’ve never seen us beat the buggers at home, and neither have I.Way back when it happened, I was in a shitty job and equally shitty frame of mind, making my music of the moment, Joy Division, fantastically appropriate. Since then I’ve travelled far and wide through many different times, and seen Sunderland directionless, so plain to see, Sunderland shirts in different shades, over each mistakes were made. We gave them everything and more. Don’t walk away, pleaded Ian Curtis in his Mancunian drawl. A few weeks after Stan Cummins did the trick for SAFC, Ian Curtis did for himself in his kitchen, with the aid of a piece of rope and clothes airer. Not the most romantic of exits from this mortal coil, but there you go. That was the end of him, and that was the end of Sunderland beating the mags on Wearside until 2008. Why? Nobody knows, as there have been numerous games from which we should have emerged triumphant. Your confusion, my illusion. I, like thousands of others, didn’t walk away from SAFC in the intervening years, despite there being numerous occasions when any shrink on the planet would have accepted that it was a perfectly valid thing to do. A lifetime later, in what could be happily described as a mature stage of life (physically if not mentally), I’ve had the butterflies that always migrate to my stomach prior to any game against the barcodes, but in huge numbers when it’s a home game. I know I should be beyond that, but I’m not. Nervous, nervous, nervous, meant a quiet night in and an early start. Stupid kick-off at 12:45 meant that distant fans had a hell of a time getting to Wearside, while those of us living relatively local saw it as a challenge to spend at least as much time in the pub as we did for a normal kick-off. So the week was filled with message of breakfast-time bar opening, and beer for breakfast for many. We of a sensible nature, and already worked up to a frenzy with thoughts of the game to come, opted for a FEB. Sausage, beans, eggs, back, the original Full Monty, before a quick pint (well, it would have been rude not to, what with them having opened up just after they’d closed) and onto the bus. I was lucky that I had a couple of Chelsea tickets to pick up and therefore no chance of any more beer in Sunderland, so I was seated and back on my feet in a frenzy way before the wall of sound erupted. £600 lighter, courtesy of having picked up ALL of the Chelsea tickets, I still had to shell out for our Ian’s beer and the taxi from Bish (having over-refreshed myself and slept in). As it turned out, £600 well spent. After collecting the tickets, we joined the scrum in the Colliery (I paid again, it’s the bairn’s birthday on Monday) then hit the SoL at the ridiculously early hour of twenty minutes before the fun began. As atmospheres go, today’s was right up there with the best. Take that, Paul Merson. After the early news that Gordon had turned his ankle, it was no surprise and no real problem to see Fulop in goal, with the rest being.... Chimbo Anton Danny George Richo Deano York Diooooof Steed Cisse It was a fairly frantic and fast game for the first 20 minutes, but without the added irritation factor of the mags getting into our box. We fired a couple harmlessly wide before the ball came in low from the right, passed the hilariously stupid Steven Taylor, and found Cisse at the back post. Out went his leg, in went the ball, up went the crowd. Unlike our past incarnations, we kept at them (which wasn’t that difficult, given how shite they really are) and Richo fired just wide of their right hand post from distance. What was that I said about us not being like our former selves? Come 29 minutes, in came the Toon to our box for the first time, and in went the header for a crap equaliser. Ten minutes later we had what I thought was a good shout for a penalty when Cisse looked to have been pushed, but we got nowt, as usual. In the minute added, we continued to dominate, and if there was any sort of justice in terms of stats (number of times in the box) we’d have been 10 -3 up when the whistle went. No changes at the break, and we kept pushing at them. Taylor cemented his position as the stupidest person ever to pull on a football shirt with the most obvious handball since Tommy saved the penalty at Sid James Park. Unfortunately, we hit the free-kick wide of the far post. Jones replaced Yorke on 57, and we kept at them with added Kenwyne. Richo played Cisse in, but the wind took the ball that vital inch away from Djib’s toe-end and the chance was gone. Again we played our way into the danger area, with Steed , Diouf, and Richo combining for Keyring to shoot just wide. On 67, Steed looked to have a good chance, but miscued and then Diouf burst into the box only to be felled. Looked well in the box to me, but the ref gave the free on the edge (chicken). Up stepped dead-eye Richo, a change of speed, a change of style, to keep the ball beneath the wind and into the net for one of the great all-time derby day goals. Ooooh yer bugger, get in. While the crowd were still bouncing, Cisse got off a shot that he had no right to and watched as it zipped a foot over the top, then they brought on the dead funny Spaniard with the hair, we sat back a bit, and started to make hard work of things. Cisse bucked the trend by finding space for a shot that beat Given and did a Richo off the post. How did the wind not blow it in? With 5 to go, Teemu replaced Steed and did what he does best – slow the game down. With Reid on for the last couple of minutes, pus the three that the ref added, it was us pushing forward as the game died off. When the whistle went, I can honestly say that it was the best I’ve felt after an individual game since 5/5/73. I’ve never hugged so many random almost-strangers in my life. Weight off our backs, mobile going bizwack for the next hour, staying in Sunderland to cuddle even more people I barely know. Yippee. Isn’t it great to be a Sunderland fan? I travelled far and wide through many different times. They had tears in their eyes. Ha Ha. So we’ll share a drink and step outside. Man of the Match? Hard one, this. Anton was superb at the back, and Richo scored a belter, but I’ll have to give it to Cisse for the way he rose to the occasion and took the game to the unwashed. Who are still waiting for the sprinklers to come on for their yearly wash as I write. Ron has just rung, on his way to his niece’s wedding in Low Fell, to say that he’s currently following the dirty mag convoy back towards the hovels of Tyneside. What fun he’ll have at the reception. Keep the faith and also "I woke up this morning having dreamt that the lads turned the over scum at the SOL this afternoon. I lay in bed for a bit (next to a lingerie model) thinking of what it would feel like. I’ve never seen us beat the Mags in person before, but as I lay there this morning I remember thinking it would probably be the best day of my life. Thankfully my dream came true and yet again we played the scum off the park but this time managed to stick the ball in the net. Djibril Cisse and Kieran Richardson have made themselves Wearside legends as the lads beat the old enemy 2-1. With derby games against the scum looking destined to always kick off early doors in an attempt to curb trouble, I found myself questioning whether this measure makes any difference in stopping alcohol related bother. For instance I knew of a few lads getting to Mowbray Park at half eight this morning with a few cans before getting in Weatherspoons at 9am. Then at eleven o clock I saw a couple of lads swigging bottles of wine each in the Glass Spider as if they were sipping bottles of Evian at the gym. My point is does the early kick off inspire people to make more of an effort to get mortal before the game? Either way it made for a cracking atmosphere in a sold out SOL. There were a few surprises in the starting eleven with Craig Gordon presumably suffering a late injury and being replaced by Marton Fulop. In front of him a back four of Ringo, Ferdinand, Collins and Chimbo. Ahead of them Malbranque started on the right with Richardson on the left. Dwight Yorke was the surprise inclusion in midfield alongside Dean Whitehead. Up front El Hadji Diouf started alongside Cisse. We started ok but the windy conditions suited the mags tactics of hoofing long balls to Ameobi. We got a few dangerous crosses into their box from Malbranque but failed to get anyone on the end of them. The Scum’s best effort on goal came from a free kick which Geremi blasted into the wall. We took the lead after twenty minutes when Cisse turned in a mishit Malbranque shot. Cisse used his brain and dropped off Taylor and Coloccini and made space for himself to poke the ball home, and somersaulted in joy along with the rest of the SOL. Newcastle equalised just before the break when Ameobi headed in from a cross. However after seeing his second half performance I wonder whether he actually intended to head the ball back across goal rather than over the line. After Marco had made the half time lottery draw we set about destroying the barcodes. We set up camp in their half but didn’t capitalise on the amount of possession we had. With half hour left to play big Kenwyne made his return to first team action in place of Dwight Yorke. With twenty minutes left to play El Hadji Diouf demonstrated the quality Sunderland no w possesses. He ghosted past what seemed like 100 Scum defenders before being hacked down cynically on the edge of the box. The position of the free kick was perfect but with Rico being so unlucky against Fulham last time out we wondered whether he could again produce the goods. Well he did by blasting an unstoppable free kick into the top left hand corner. There was no attempt to curl or place the shot; it was a case of absolutely lacing the leather off the ball and nearly bursting the net. Now a word about Pope John Joey, who when warming up incited the Sunderland crowd by kissing his shirt in the same way I imagine he kissed arse in prison to some big tough guy. This was almost embarrassing, as was the way the unwashed welcomed his return by chanting his name and cheering as if Fernando Torres was warming up for them. I couldn’t think of a club more suitable for him to be fair. Sunderland saw the game out with considerable ease thanks to Shola Ameobi who did magnificently in thwarting any Newcastle attacks. His clearing of the ball for goal kicks when in dangerous positions or losing the ball whilst in possession made him a contender for man of the match. In fact we should have won the game by more as Sunderland ended the game well on top. Cisse came the closest when he fired a shot from twenty five yards but he was again denied by the woodwork as the ball struck the foot of the post. The full time whistle was greeted with chaotic scenes as a few fans invaded the pitch in excitement. Chimbonda came over to the West Stand and threw his shirt to the fans and it was nice to see that the lads really knew that the result meant something to the fans. ALS Man of the Match: Steed Malbranque. Was different class all afternoon. Was as brilliant as Shola Ameobi was useless (which is high praise). They've even printed T-shirts as well. http://www.a-love-supreme.com/index.htm
  2. It's not bile, most of it is fair comment. He had just come on and looked like he had been on all match. Not asking for anything but a bit of closing down, you know, defending from the front.
  3. Agree with that. Thought the manager, team and fans acted like a bunch of cocks with a certain attitude they didn't need to have.
  4. Are you one of these people that writes to points Of View every time there's something on the telly you disagree with? Are you one of those people's who have previously posted on here under another username? No. Ask the mods. Why, who were you thinking of?
  5. No, otherwise I'd be starting my posts with why o why o why... Are you one of these people who decides to go against the popular opinion whatever the topic?
  6. But the so called NUSC is nothing like a supporters club, it's a single agenda driven vehicle of the usual self important and attention seeking suspects and in no way represents Newcastle fans. No sane Newcastle supporter would touch it with a barge pole. I totally agree mate, the rubbish they are releasing is further embarrasing and degrading the club, it isnt improving morale at the club or in the fans and I really wish they would just shut up! Have you told them this or are you going to keep on wishing?
  7. That statement as a standalone I tend to rather agree with, but in the case of this thread it almost seems out of place. The NUSC is releasing press statements which are neither reasoned nor helpful. They're more blind prejudice and inflammatory. So true, as I've said doing something is only better than doing nothing if the action you take is beneficial. In this case we would be better off if they hadn't released these statements. Yep fair points. But it appears - and this has been the problem with NUFC fans in general for a while - that people are happy to moan and bitch about things on here, other forums, at work, in the pub etc but would never do anything about it. The people have, good on them. They don't have to have people pulling them down for it. If you've got such a problem with what they are saying - tell them. If they don't change when enough people tell them then by all means have a go at them. I think fans should stick to moaning and bitching to put it bluntly. There's a reason lunatics aren't usually allowed to run the asylum. Putting out statements discouraging sponsors, suggesting customers buy their pies from Greggs etc. shows why it's best fans just stick to being fans. Completely disagree. There is absolutely nothing wrong with forming something like NUSC. You're mixing up the things that they're saying, with what they set out to achieve. You will never get everyone to agree, but it seems like they've upset a few people. They need to be told and given a chance
  8. That statement as a standalone I tend to rather agree with, but in the case of this thread it almost seems out of place. The NUSC is releasing press statements which are neither reasoned nor helpful. They're more blind prejudice and inflammatory. So true, as I've said doing something is only better than doing nothing if the action you take is beneficial. In this case we would be better off if they hadn't released these statements. Yep fair points. But it appears - and this has been the problem with NUFC fans in general for a while - that people are happy to moan and bitch about things on here, other forums, at work, in the pub etc but would never do anything about it. The people have, good on them. They don't have to have people pulling them down for it. If you've got such a problem with what they are saying - tell them. If they don't change when enough people tell them then by all means have a go at them.
  9. Will also be interesting to see how many actually get replies. You're right, it will It will also be interesting to see how many people contact them in the first place. Right, just e mailed them. I'll let you know. If you don't mind asking - what was your query about? If you do, that's fine. I'll post my query & their reply on here when I get it, no bother at all. I wouldn't want my e mail being answered just because it had appeared on here, if you know what I mean? I'm not saying at all that that would be the case, but I'd rather wait and see. FWIW I do think I'll get one. Well done Liam, glad you've done something about it. There just seem a lot of people on here who jump on anything that happens and turn it into a negative. This is there chance to prove how much it means to them. I also agree with the 2/3 posts above, they have done some things badly and they are definitely some of them.
  10. Will also be interesting to see how many actually get replies. You're right, it will It will also be interesting to see how many people contact them in the first place. Right, just e mailed them. I'll let you know. If you don't mind asking - what was your query about? If you do, that's fine.
  11. Will also be interesting to see how many actually get replies. You're right, it will It will also be interesting to see how many people contact them in the first place.
  12. "For general queries please use [email protected]" There you go. Anyone with queries contact them there. It would be nice to let us know when you have, so we can see how many people can be bothered to get off their arses like the people who formed NUSC did.
  13. I would reckon most of them are happy whining about it on here. There's quite a lot of concern being expressed about the motives and conception of NUSC too btw. Legitimate worries/questions are being asked on here, and on TT, and they haven't been addressed in any way shape or form. If you want to classify that as 'whining' then that's up to you. "most" Bollocks. A lot of people have raised issues. Fair enough. I'll repeat the above: "Out of interest, has anyone tried emailing their criticisms to True Faith or The Mag?"
  14. I would reckon most of them are happy whining about it on here. There's quite a lot of concern being expressed about the motives and conception of NUSC too btw. Legitimate worries/questions are being asked on here, and on TT, and they haven't been addressed in any way shape or form. If you want to classify that as 'whining' then that's up to you. "most"
  15. I would reckon most of them are happy whining about it on here.
  16. "chatters while Rome burns" Too much of this on this thread. Some very childish attitudes towards NUSC. They may not have it right - yet, but some of the mud being slung their way is ridiculous.
  17. Which bits of it dont resonate with you? Most of it. The parts that other people have mentioned above. These show a basic lack of understanding of the club. He's been reading Louise Taylor's articles.
  18. We're emigrating to Perth leaving on Jan the 12th. Leave a message on here as I know two lads over there and we're going to meet up to watch the matches.
  19. Regardless, winning matches will keep them off your back. I hate it when managers moan about the press or media. But even when we have, they are still ready to stick the knife in. In this case it's the British media building something up, then taking great pleasure in knocking it down. Hard. Oh I don't know about that. I thought his first and second sentences were very statesman like.
  20. The analogy works well with the person being discussed.
  21. No, it was John Barnwell who was on the end of those threats. So what did he threaten him with? Not one of the people who I was talking about. He didn't threaten violence, although he tried to shut down websites, sue them and the papers and ban them from the club - if he didn't like what they wrote. Obviously this had more effect locally. Seriously mate, as you are not a buffoon like some of the others, this is a serious comment [before I go to bed so I will answer tomorrow]. Do you REALLY think that people all over the country are bothered, and had even heard this stuff even if they had ? I would like someone with a bit of sense ie you, to explain to me what effect this had on anything, apart from motivating arseholes on phone-ins, southern journalists who hate Newcastle anyway, and supporters on other clubs message boards to "laugh" at the club. Get some backbone is what I say. I'm sure YOU don't think for a moment that the phone ins, the views of southern journos, and WUM's on other clubs message boards is indicative of what people in real life think about the club ? They don't give a toss mate, they really don't. The vast majority of them hadn't even heard of it, and even those that did who live in the real world, have more to occupy themselves and their lives. If anything, the reaction of those who's whole lives revolve around listening to radio phone ins and message boards instead of having a bit of a life in the real world, is what attracts so much mirth. And righly so as well. The vast majority of supporters all over the UK have been jealous as f*** about us for what we've done on the pitch in the last 15 years. I live out of the area, and I come across other fans every day of my life, and believe me, most of them have hardly heard of Shepherd or any other chairman and they don't give a toss about anything other than a clubs results on the pitch. The bit in bold I agree with 100%. As for other fans MBs, phone-ins etc - I really couldn't give a s***, though the constant lies do sometimes rile me. As you know, I have an opinion on Shepherd that will NEVER change. Yes, we had good footballing times, I completely agree (although those can also be attributed to the manager), but he did a whole lot of other things that go against in what I BELIEVE IS RIGHT AND WRONG. I've been priviledged? to see and hear some of the things he did that others didn't get to see, some first hand. Those things all coupled together made me despise the man, no matter what he did in footballing terms. The stuff he is spouting in the article is ridiculous and a poor PR attempt at changing peoples perceptions of him. I respect what you're saying, but you will never change my mind about him.
  22. Plenty of people have had a go at the current owner, I'm not surprised that it's gone over your head though. whats that got to do with it being the biggest crisis in 30 years ? you just get dumber all the time. mackems.gif People are commenting on the things he said in his interview, giving personal opinions. There are plenty of Ashley threads around.
  23. No, it was John Barnwell who was on the end of those threats. So what did he threaten him with? Not one of the people who I was talking about. He didn't threaten violence, although he tried to shut down websites, sue them and the papers and ban them from the club - if he didn't like what they wrote. Obviously this had more effect locally.
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