Pilko

For fucking fucks sake. How many more times is Lovenkrands going to get a free pass into our starting 11?

We don't need Bassong back ffs, look elsewhere.

Pleased that our scouting seems more thorough these days. Long gone are the days when Roeder would go easyjetting round Europe looking at players way out of his price range and the only alternative was asking Terry Mac if he'd seen anyone good in the Pontins League on a Thursday night.

D.Bent free-kick hit the bar and Zheng scored the rebound, and then Solano fouled Zheng and Jerome Thomas got the pen. It was absolutely shit from our lot. Charlton's manager? Alan Pardew.

Beardsley's comments on the official site suggest that we might be retaining Donaldson, he talks about 'next season'.

I might have overgeneralized his inaccuracy. He's solid as long as he makes easy passes..But he's the one who should perform the killer pass, not Tiote.. i thought so, and you're probably right in that respect generally speaking

That post has completely changed your argument, btw. First you said his passing was inaccurate, now you're saying it's similar to that of a defensive midfielder, which is something completely different. Regardless of 'how' he passes the ball, I fail to see how Nolan can be considered as anything other than a good passer of the ball. He's quite tidy with possession, not perfect, but pretty good.

You think Blackburn was our best away match? http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/sbr_047MoranisThomas.jpg

Can't believe Nolan's passing has been described as 'inaccurate', but then again I can believe it because Punk77 said it and he's clearly an absolute mong.

He could go around hospitals eating newborn babies and shitting on the cripples and he'd still be nowhere near Curle.

The phrase 'asset strip' should never be allowed to be used on these forums ever again.

To my recollection, we played a CM of Barton and Smith at their place and we weren't outplayed in the midfield at all, it was fairly even. Henry and Smith kind of cancelled each other out as talentless thugs.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Resistance/england2000

nufc.com seems to think his contract's up this summer... safe bet we'll give him a new one?

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/liverpoolpost/nov2007/1/3/74419646-F575-8F27-85B8C5365AB19EE8.jpg http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Nov/Week4/15464324.jpg etc etc Not that I want one, like. Just playing devil's advocate and that.

I didn't feel a great deal when he scored for England but when he scores for the bin dippers I'm going to be gutted.

If we have the shitty pair of clapping hands that the mackems have on their scoreboard when the players are coming out then I will die of shame.

fuck you

Me too, and I studied the fucker for two years.

Official site has them now. Prepare to be bored shitless.

Seperate issues, really. Ian W's post on the last page or two summed that up - we've probably got reserve players (Ferguson, Vuckic) who would fetch higher fees than the likes of Smith or R.Taylor but who are on a fraction of the income.

It's a waste of time discussing this, really. It boils down to how cynical people are towards the board and how much faith people have in Carroll for not being a massive wanker.

We didn't have to sell him regardless of what he wanted. He handed in a transfer request and I think £35m was a good price. I have no problems with that. I agree with the misgivings that we clearly didn't bother getting anyone of sufficient calibre in to replace him.

It's different because Carroll demanded a new contract or he was off, to our knowledge Tiote did not do that. Also, Tiote was absolutely 100% not on a wage that befitted his squad status. Carroll's wage was debatably about what he should have been on. Yes, he had a brilliant start to the season and an England cap, but it's still very early days in his Premier League career. The offer to renegotiate at the end of the season tops it off, too. It's a perfectly reasonable compromise and Carroll rejected it.

This is bullshit. At the end of the day, it boils down to whether or not you agree with what the club percieved to be acceptable wages for Carroll and Tiote. If Tiote was on under £10k a week before the new deal, then I agree with them that he is worth a pay rise and contract extension. If Carroll was on ~£35k a week before January 31st, having only been on that increased wage for four months, then it again depends whether you agree that he was worth whatever he was asking for, rumoured to be nearly double that. I for one don't think he was worth that wage considering he demanded it and even brushed off the club's suggestion a new deal would be thrashed out about four months down the line. Put it this way - the club offered to give him a new deal about 8 months into a 66 month contract, and he thought they were being unreasonable. Considering they managed to get £35m for him then I don't particularly disagree with the club one bit on this one. I really find it pathetic how people are saying we should have just given Carroll his mega-money. What's to say another four months down the line he'd not be after another pay rise (and hefty signing on fee/agent fee)? It's a dynamic that could go on forever. Anyone who's seen Mark from Peep Show paying that chav to get his Blackberry back will know the scenario - the party with the power (in this case Carroll) can basically take the piss if the other party (the club) adopts a soft-line approach. EDIT: The criticisms about us not levering a deal for Sturridge/Ngog, or getting someone else in who isn't Kuqi etc, as we held all the cards in the Carroll/Torres deals, I completely accept btw.