ChrisMcQuillan

Krul - 7 Simpson - 7 Taylor - 7 Campbell - 8 Enrique - 7 Routledge 7.5 Guthrie - 6.5 Tiote - 7 Jonas - 6 Shola - 4 Carroll - 7 Ranger - 7 All round decent. Campbell MOTM for me, followed by Routledge.

BBC News frontpage shows them clearing out St James Park. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

It'll be Chelsea, Arsenal or Man Utd away.

I reckon Kadar would be ahead of Perch in the order of things.

Why do Sunderland get all the luck?

As much as i'm not a fan of Taylor, that's a daft statement. Williamson's ability amounts to little, he just does Ok with the basics. And he's only had 14 games at this level in his career, in almost half of those games he's looked iffy. Tbf, it's only the last 3 or so he's looked a bit shaky.

You can't have been watching very long. He's bad, but we've had far worse. I haven't been watching Newcastle as long as 99% on here, but I know that I can safely say he's the worst player I've seen play for us in my time. Absolutely no hyperbole either, comfortably the worst. Rozehnal, Cacapa and Butt were worse in recent years, to name but a few. Not defending Smith, cause he was awful today.

If I see Guthrie on the right again, I will run into the dugout and punch Hughton to death.

Krul Simpson Campbell S. Taylor Enrique Routledge Tiote Nolan Jonas Carroll Ameobi

Of course, BBC don't mention there's doubts about the validity of the penalty either.

I think we could be just above the bottom three by Christmas. Truth is, we've been boxing above our weight. Take away Villa and Sunderland, which are exceptional circumstances, then you only really have the 1-0 against Everton and against Arsenal to actually say we did very well at. Ben Arfa's crocked, and he gave us the Everton win, so we can't rely on that talent again. Our results have been very worrying against our relegation rivals, and with no investment in January we will be in a relegation scrap this season again.

Er, I think so yes. I didn't see it, so I was just asking.

Will this be a 3-match ban for Coloccini? Was it violent conduct?

There's nobody else to pick from. Exactly. But we've shot ourselves in the foot with stupid fucking suspensions and Hughton needs to sort that out. It's Ashley's job to get in some decent players, but he won't. I hate this club sometimes.

Hughton needs to look at the discipline in this team and sort it the fuck out. Tactically outclassed today. He never shuffles anything up, teams can just watch a DVD of our game before and know exactly what to expect. If Ashley doesn't invest, it will become a relegation scrap. Guaranteed.

Horrendous defending.

4-1

Guthrie coming off.

Routledge on. I'm glad Hughton brought him on with plenty of time left to... oh.

Carroll's indestructible man.

Carroll just got annihilated there.

REALLY worried about our lack of discipline.

Horrendous from Nolan.

Carroll should have scored there.