themanupstairs

His command of the English language is too embarrassing to be made England manager.

"Weou yeaaa I fowt we woz better than them japs. Many of them were ballers, and we just couldn't get that narrow defeat over the line".

it will just be talk anyway- say they will prioritize the cups- send out a 'strong' side- mysteriously always lose anyway

We know it's all talk, but they could at least make it sound believable!

If AshleyOut is run by 14 year olds, and AshleyOut is run by the same people who run SackPardew, and Carver threaten to assault a bunch of the SackPardew guys then ... Carver likes to beat up children?

 

I feel my logic is solid and grounded.

Wait a minute. Prioritize the cups OVER the league? Who the fuck has asked for that?

Why do we need a blanket prioritization of one thing over another? So does it mean we'll not try as hard in the league, but dry our damn hardest in the cup? What the fuck is that?

Assemble a squad in a sensible logical way, hire a manager with an actual personality and some footballing knowledge, and try your damn best to win every game you're pencilled in for. Fuck's sake!

So moronic to think he made us look stupid as if his upturn in fortune is like some kind of celestial event that comes and goes every so often, and had we just kept him long enough, that purple patch would have seen us win 9 in 13 when it did finally decide to turn up. As it stands, it turns out that Palace were the ones who took full advantage of the pardew eclipse.

Utter fucking stupidity.

No way will Pardew be considered for manager of the year, that belongs to Mourinho , and deservedly so, however winning 9 from 13 was pretty good going considering the club were on their arse under Warnock, and he made quite a few toon fans look rather daft.

 

A defeat today was more than predictable, Pardew had guided them to the magical 40points so job done, flip flops on 

Fishing much?

And another email from them this morning (6.02am) about Spurs tickets.

 

From whom?

NUFC

Got one this morning, and I've only ever been to one match

(Dirty forrin from Cyprus before anyone starts on me. My one trip to see us play in the championship against Reading cost me over 3 thousand Sterling).

"Triggered their heads..."  Jesus

"something"

Hate him now as much I hated al pards.

Oh I'm inspired now. Like totally.

What Cronky is saying actually makes a lot of sense, but only in the event that Pardew was actually a respectable manager with ability, and if Ashley was a simple thrifty businessman with a desire to run a tight ship. As it were, neither of those are true. Pardew showed himself to be totally out of his depth at managing this club (having been plucked out of lower league obscurity), and Ashley has shown nothing but contempt towards the fans with the many offences he has committed against the club and its standing in the game. In addition to that, we DO have a history of selling some of our best players without replacing them.

In theory, Cronky is right. In practice, i'm afraid it's his opinion that is naive and not the "campaigners'".

Janmaat is probably my favourite player. So I'm delighted if he gets the armband. Colo is passed it at this stage. I need a Janmaat avatar.

 

Edit: Added it and decided to PS the Wonga s**** out of it. Anyone who wants that done pm me. More than happy to do it.

Already paid for my Wonga logo in internet bandwidth mate. Think that shit's free? Thanks, but no thanks!

Kane is a shoe-in for the YPOTY imo. It's not even up for debate

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It boils down to stubborness (he won't stop ME going), apathy (doesn't matter he has the TV money) or perception (I/we will look disloyal/ we'll put buyers off) None of which refute the benefits of a boycott.

 

I think some of it is down to misplaced spite towards those organising it as well. As in "Who are they to tell me what to do, it'll never work anyway". f***ing depressing when the chance for change is being put on a plate for people in a way that requires zero effort, yet they'll inexplicably ignore it and carry on going /moaning.

Extremely likely to be the case with folks like UD who can't really give a valid explanation for why sitting on your hands at the match is better than uniting and making a statement.

Oh aye. "Starred" in a 2-0 defeat, as inspirational first team head coach watched on from the sidelines.

Who do they think we are man?

Nobody should abandon their club because of things like relegations and defeats and things that are the normal part of being a fan, but we need to separate that concept of loyalty from what is going on at the moment. This is a great chance to sacrifice something quite small to demonstrate that we don't accept how the club is being run. There's nothing disloyal about it, quite the opposite.

Who are you? And what have you done with IanW?

Just jokes mate. Very well said.

I was accused of being a glory seeker today because I support the boycott.

 

I must be the worst glory seeker in the history of mankind.

what two-brain-cell moron managed to drum up such an accusation?

Maybe it's a cultural thing, but sometimes I don't get this English obsession with relatively small amounts of money. Whatever the price someone paid for the ticket, you could end up losing it, or having it stolen off you. What would you do? Go on a killing spree? Call the cops? And this isn't even a case of a 13 yr old teenager saving up every penny to buy a single match ticket. I'm on about grown adults having this mentality of "I've paid so I'm going", and completely disregarding the bigger picture.

UD should look at the 30-40 odd quid cost of the ticket the same way one would look at giving money to charity. You're not going to see a direct benefit to yourself, but it's a gesture for the greater good.

Not a right winger. He's dire overall as a footballer, but whatever good he might be able to bring to the team, he can only do on the left where he can look up with the ball on his more natural side and see the pitch.

Awful player anyway.

Glad I chose to watch GoT instead of this rubbish.

Watch us win it now

:lolmeme: I hold in my cum longer than that.

Pardew failed here primarily because the club were signing talented technical footballers from the continent for him - the type of player he doesn't want, appreciate, trust, or know how to use. The lack of investment in terms of total spend, or the timing of players sold/brought in, has far less to do with Pardew's failings and miserable records and more to do with his inability to adapt to having a different type of player to manager than what he's used to. By the end of his tenure here he had driven out practically all of the talented footballers, having misused them or benched them with no justification, or the few he did well with were held back by his tactics (doing well in spite of the limitations he brought to the team). Every one of these players couldn't wait to get away from Pardew and his horrendous approach to games, make no mistake about that, and we're now suffering for having Pardew here as we have the remains of a decent squad filled which is now filled with mediocre players who shouldn't be anywhere near a Premiership first team.

 

When we finished 5th under Pardew, we did so because at a time when results and performances were starting to dip Pardew stumbled onto a formation and lineup that "clicked" and had our best players playing in their best positions. By the end of that season he switched away from that formation/lineup for no good reason and then never went back to it, not once, out of pure pride/arrogance. His cockiness the following season as the Manager of the Year award got to his head resulted in the team playing "his way", and we ended up with the same team that finished 5th nearly getting relegated by playing some of the most ugly, cowardly, negative hoofball I've ever witnessed an NUFC team play.

 

Pardew is, imo, the person ultimately responsible for Mike Ashley's policy of wanting to be mid table and no higher. I think the original intention was to finish mid table as a minimum - now it's mid table and no higher, and that's a seemingly subtle but actually massive difference. In some ways I can understand not bothering about the cups, as they're firmly second tier competitions and getting into the CL is far more important to the growth of the club than winning the FA Cup (even if a trophy is what most of our fans want). But not wanting to finish as high as possible is insanity (in addition to not bothering with the cups) - and I don't think Mike Ashley ever started out with that intention. When we finished 5th the club seemed to be delighted with both the high finish and the European qualification, even releasing a statement iirc saying so and rewarding Pardew with an 8 year contract - if Ashley had already decided that Europe was bad, we'd have thrown a number of games and rested/benched key players to avoid qualification. We didn't because Mike Ashley, who knows little about football, had no policy about it yet. Fast forward 12 months and the club slowly transitioned from "yay we're in Europe" to "f***ing Europe, it's a curse" - why? Because that's what Pardew sold to anyone and every who would listen, including no doubt an irate Ashley who would not have been happy at the team going from 5th to near relegation in successive seasons. Pardew, being a pretty decent spin doctor and looking to save his own skin, is the one who used the challenges associated with continental football as an excuse for awful form/performances domestically (which were in turn down to his hoofball instructions and stubborn refusal to pick the best team in the best formation with the best players in their best position). He's the one who kept on bemoaning the additional games and the affect it had on domestic form (even if he was lying about players being tired given that we often played the B team in the league format of the games). He's the one who kept referring to stats about teams in Europe don't do well in domestic competitions.

 

As much as I hate Ashley, I hate Pardew more. I feel as though Ashley, as disgusting a human being as he is, would not logically have been dead set against European qualification give the considerable additional income it generates (especially the CL), and the fact that it'd mean more international coverage for Craps Direct. He was at a crossroad, and Pardew made sure Ashley went down a path of misinformation that now ensures we never qualify for Europe as long as he owns the club. That is Pardew's legacy at NUFC.

Sorry for quoting this lads but it deserves to be on every page of an al pards thread.

Excellent post tmonkey man :clap:

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