themanupstairs

Yup 100%. Ramos is a dickhead there's no doubt about that, but he didn't do much wrong in this incident. Unfortunate for the player and the team but that's about it.

Before offering my opinion (that no one in their right mind should care about), I'd like to say the following: - I've hated Liverpool since the first 4-3. I was a bairn at the time and I took it to heart how much they (and their fans) celebrated taking the title away from us. - I've pretty much hated every edition of Liverpool apart from Rafa's (honest) and sort of kind of this lot. - The current Liverpool side are quite fantastic going forward, and quite mediocre in midfield, defence and at GK. Despite that I'll not take anything away from their somewhat successful season. - Sergio Ramos is a quality defender but an absolute prick. Now to be honest, I was in two minds about Liverpool winning last night. Most of my good friends are Liverpool supporters and I wanted them to enjoy it, but on the other hand the wife is hardcore Real so there was only one winner in the end. Liverpool, despite blowing some sides away in the competition this year, were a bit lucky to get to this final in the first place IMO. The return games against City and Roma to be exact. Certain decisions went their way at key moments that could've halted their run had the refereeing been better/different. Real were also lucky to scrape past Bayern and Juve in their second legs. Onto the game, we were all expecting a glorious goal fest which didn't really materialize. Real looked quite nervous at the start and rightly so as the favorites facing one of the most dangerous forward lines (and this year's best player). The injury to Salah was purely accidental IMO. Ramos had no qualms about stay touch tight to him but the incident itself wasn't malicious at all. He actually releases the arm as they both start to tumble (could have hurt himself as well). The incident on Karius is debatable because Ramos is clearly pushed by Van Dijk first before he's anywhere near the GK. There wasn't much good football played. Real created more chances, and defended well across all their lines. Liverpool were very good in defence and quite ordinary in midfield and attack. Karius obviously had his worst footballing nightmares all come true in one match. Not sure how psychologically strong he is but that might be him finished at the top level of the game. One thing I wasn't surprised by at all was that without Salah, Liverpool had no gameplan apart from the high press. Apart from the goal and A. Arnold's early chance, they barely threatened the goal. Firmino and Lallana barely touched the ball. Henderson passed sideways and into nonthreatening positions as he only knows how. Wijnaldum tried to make a dribble or two but, like Liverpool's midfield, looked a step below in quality compared to Casemiro, Kroos and Modric (none of whom had a particularly good game). All in all, I quite enjoyed that. From Liverpool's perspective the events were tragic but they didn't lose because of any Ramos/refereeing malice as most of them are crying about this morning. Maybe Klopp will finally decide to be ruthless and address his glaring goalkeeping problems. He also has to add to Keita in midfield. I wonder if anyone will come in for Salah this summer. For their (and football's) sake, I hope not.

It'll be Roberto Di Matteo or Avram Grant.

Well we know that he would drop whatever he was doing and join the squad if called upon. Jake is reliable that way.

They'll probably play a combined total of 3 minutes and that'll be it.

Lallana and Welbeck Midfield and defence are pitiful. No experience at GK. Won't get past the second round.

He's like a massive blanket that smothers anything and anyone that goes near him. Absolute supremacy out there in midfield today.

Forget them, we were brilliant. Oh yes we were. Could have been 3 or 4 up at HT were it not for Courtois.

Most important hyphen in forum history.

Doesn't matter to me because if Rafa leaves, I'm officially out and not bothered anymore. Might even be a nice feeling moving on with my life without this constant shit fest It depends on how and why he leaves, but aye. Totally my sentiment as well.

Imagine sitting in your mam's kitchen, half-drunk warm pint in hand, staring out the window thinking about nothing else other than Pardew being there

Because he's thick as pigshit. He's a League 1 manager anyway so they might as well stick with him. Took me a good half hour to realise they were officially down until I checked who Bolton played next. This is just fantastic

Second half today he looked like the best holding midfielder in Europe. Sensational form since West Ham away. Rafa will know if he can produce the same next season or not. Wouldn't be surprised if he was sold in summer with his stock high. Maybe we can recoup at least half of the 28M we paid for him.

This keeps getting better and better! Every week I expect them to start pulling up the table, but nope... Glorious

He's looking to improve peripheral vision for our midfielders to give them more space and time on the ball. Brilliant stuff as he just gets better and better.

That is incredible from Rafa. He knows we aren't Bayern but also knows the massive potential of what he's involved in.

Gone by Christmas/February/Easter of last year. Rancid football, tells our players to sit back. Sick of him now.

We'll never get to see the avatars in action because they've all gone eerily quiet for some unbeknownst reason? Oh the reason is beknownst alright

Yup

Where are all the knackers who said he'd be gone by Christmas/Easter/Kwanzaa?

100% deserved result. David Wagner can go fuck himself. He's a massively overrated gobshite and his side and the football they play is completely pointless. Delighted.

Aye but Hudds fans aren't happy either as they say he's a dirty Leeds fan who hates them. Good. If we can put one over this insignificant scum with a terrible refereeing decision, I'll be delighted.

Insanely difficult to come up with one favorite goal really: - Ferguson turn and volley vs Man Utd - Ginola Ferencvaros - Cole away at Chelsea - Lee home to Liverpool - Cisse at Chelsea - Robert home to Liverpool - Lua Lua home to Charlton - Pancrate - Ba home to Man U - Cisse home to Norwich - Shearer vs Villa fuck this

It looked a far easier finish than it actually was. Superb shout.

Gambled and lost. White shorts too, massive own goal. :lol: