Neil

Jol would be an upgrade on Hughton, surely?

Keefaz. Failing to play Richard Wright just off the lone striker was a ridiculous decision.

Got £5 on Depor DNB, Palermo DNB and Liverpool currently. Also going to put a decent amount (well, sizeable for me) on Liverpool for Saturday.

Anarchy vs. everything's great. Nothing in between.

Midtable is deceiving. We're four point above relegation zone and just had our worst defeat of the season to a fellow promoted team. We're hardly in a good place. If 4 points above the relegation places after 16 games isn't good for a newly promoted team, then what is?

Sure. You're incredibly deluded.

I must say, before today, they probably would have been the most unlikely 3 bets I'd have thought someone would put on.

4/7 now. Christ.

That's one word for it.

This would certainly seem the sensible option.

Wasn't he also porking someones wife? Jose Fonte's, aye.

If you had actually put any thought into the topic before posting, you'll see they've been completely obliterated by a ridiculous amount of injuries. They'll rise up the table sooner rather than later.

You generally win games by being better than the opposition. What on earth is the point in anything if winning games is put down to "the opposition being awful"? There is no adequate on-pitch explanation of this sacking.

Pardew now 4/5.

Logic alert.

Skybet has currently stopped taking bets on Pardew. Temporarily perhaps. Edit: aye, was temporary. Still 5/4.

Does it? What's the source on that? I really hope it's not actually true, but the absolutely gutless last two away performances would arguably suggest that he had. So the instant a club starts losing games it's fair to suggest the manager has lost the dressing room and needs replacing sharpish? Do me a favour. I note Stu has failed to criticise this decision one bit btw, despite being all over others having a go at Hughton and the players like a rash in previous weeks. " "

66/1 on bet365 I heard.

Pardew in to 5/4 on Skybet.

O'Neill, Moyes, Hughes, Bruce, etc etc. All much of a muchness, and none of them are any better than Hughton. None of them can coach or build a team into playing good, entertaining football, it's all about hard work, getting stuck in, getting players who are a physical threat, and buying enough average players with Premiership/top flight experience to ensure the squad isn't too exposed after a few injuries. Had we given Hughton time and a reasonable amount of money to replace substandard dross like Smith, Xisco, Lovenkrands, Best, Guthrie, etc etc, he'd probably have achieved what they did. 100% wrong. Otherwise, completely stunned at this news. Within context, I would disagree. Compared to what Keegan and Sir Bobby built for us, with all due respect your best team under Moyes doesn't come close in terms of attacking football. The team Moyes has now has been decent for years now, but nothing beyond above average. And I recall his first few years with yourselves (one was near relegation was it not?) involved putting out a team that essentially kicked players off the park at times, similar to Sparky's Blackburn, until he eventually put together a decent group of players who could match some footballing ability with the aggression. Where did I say our football matched Keegan's or SBR's? The point is, he has done exactly what you said he didn't: built up a team gradually, with good coaching and management, a relative lack of funds, into a team that plays pretty good football. I rate him above all the managers in your original post.

O'Neill, Moyes, Hughes, Bruce, etc etc. All much of a muchness, and none of them are any better than Hughton. None of them can coach or build a team into playing good, entertaining football, it's all about hard work, getting stuck in, getting players who are a physical threat, and buying enough average players with Premiership/top flight experience to ensure the squad isn't too exposed after a few injuries. Had we given Hughton time and a reasonable amount of money to replace substandard dross like Smith, Xisco, Lovenkrands, Best, Guthrie, etc etc, he'd probably have achieved what they did. 100% wrong. Otherwise, completely stunned at this news.

Apart from that though, he's a surefire appointment.

O'Neill out.

Opposition teams will be ra-... rapidly.. not... winning games... against you.

A loss and it's curtains... for getting 3 points from this game. You Evertonians shouldn't be allowed on here. You're just far too level headed. Whats wrong with having bi-polar mood swings and knee jerking like we do ? Frankly at the moment with the way we start seasons, it's just optimistic faith in hoping things will get better. If we don't laugh, we'll cry. I reckon you'll get something from this - if Nolan/Barton are back. Unfortunately Carragher's out.