Neil

Barca with 6 mins + stoppage time to save themselves.

Heskey misses a clearance at centre back and Forest score again. :lol:

Augsburg over 1.5 team goals was 17/10, stupid value. Goalie scored in the last min. English bets have been less profitable.

Augsburg goalie equalises in the last minute.

8 last week, 6 this week for Bayern.

Lineker's one of the few worth following on Twitter.

Spot on. The Guardian podcast on Weds was spot on n all, paying it some actual respect - Dave Farrar was positively moist. Far better than the same 11 out of 16 teams scared to lose in the cash cup. Spot on, which is why I'm pleased we're taking it seriously. Regardless of the fact our league campaign has been verging on disastrous, it's a good competition with plenty of quality teams in, and instead of the constantly marketed Champions League, it's the constantly criticised Europa League which has provided most of the entertainment in European action this season.

watching a player loads and forming an opinion based on that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stats bores. Doesn't show a true reflection in football like it does other lesser sports. Precisely. Bale has been ineffective in countless games for Real while Hazard rarely goes a game without creating a clear chance or getting the opposition on the back foot thus altering the dynamic of the game. He's a more consistent player in my book.

Absolutely no way he's behind Bale like. In what way is he better? Even this season where Bale has come in for some criticism, he's still the more effective player. In the way that he's been substantially more effective for Chelsea than Bale has been for Real in the past 18 months. Also the way he has produced better performances. Not to say the fact he has looked like more of a match-winner. That's not true though is it. Hazard has 31 goals & 14 assists in 85 games from the beginning of last season. Bale has 36 goals & 22 assists in 77. Less games, more goals and assists. He also doesn't take the majority of penalties for his team either. Clearly Bale has been more effective, let alone "substantially" less effective - which is a ludicrous statement. The match-winner stuff is crazy too when Bale scored crucial goals in helping Real win trophies. the Barca goal in particular was brilliant. Real stuffed a fair few teams in the CL last season but Bale was simply magnificent throughout. Bale has been a 1 in 2 scorer for the past 3 seasons. Hazard is still 1 in 3. Takes all Chelsea's penalties and has scored maybe 2 league goals away all season. To say Hazard is better and more effective than Bale is just not true. Hazard is yet to top Bale's last Spurs season let alone the big game match winners of last season. :lol: Well then. Crouch for England.

Absolutely no way he's behind Bale like. In what way is he better? Even this season where Bale has come in for some criticism, he's still the more effective player. In the way that he's been substantially more effective for Chelsea than Bale has been for Real in the past 18 months. Also the way he has produced better performances. Not to say the fact he has looked like more of a match-winner.

Not used to a nice win this season. Very pleasant surprise.

Absolutely no way he's behind Bale like.

Everyone say Oriente Petrolero.

Just caught up on recent events. The last few pages on this and the Colback thread are fucking astounding. :lol:

VI, how much will Atleti's financial troubles impact them going forward (IIRC they've got major issues with their accounts haven't they?) I guess if they keep selling a player a season for £40-£50m though they'll be fine.

Are Atletico drunk? Absolutely atrocious so far.

Some ridiculous games today. 4-4 at Bloomfield Road.

4-4 Leverkusen Wolfsburg! 7-0 Munich!

I'll save someone the effort: http://www.singleblackmale.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/he-mad.jpg

Aye, quite funny really. If he learned to control a ball effectively and wasn't scuffing most of his shots maybe he was justified in his calls. As it is, he is just as major part of us struggling than anyone else is at the club. I maintain there's a good player there - even given the criticism his goalscoring record is nothing to turn your nose up at - but he could be so, so much better.

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Cheers for continuing to be a shambles, Rangers.

4-2

1 fucking second for the second time.

Dortmund 3-2